Star Trek is a franchise that has proven repeatedly that it can be a success with shows featuring fresh sets of characters. I don’t see why TNG or anything else even needs to be rebooted.
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A Next Gen Reboot?
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Pitch Meeting Studio Executive: "Because money."
Pitch Meeting Writer: "That works."
Pitch Meeting Writer: "That works."
They had that conversation in the mid-80s and we got an entirely new set of characters from the original TNG.
Money was made. Lots of money. They are still making money from that show 40 years down the line.
Money was made. Lots of money. They are still making money from that show 40 years down the line.
Are they making money now with what they’re already producing?
Almost forgot about this, Here's a little more
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INT Bridge of the USS Defiant-day
The Defiant’s bridge is smaller and more cramped than the Enterprise. This is a ship designed for war, a legacy of the conflict with the Cardassians. The commanding officer, COMMANDER WILLIAM RIKER, sits in the center seat watching the Enterprise as she docks.
Standing at the port tactical console, the ship’s Executive Officer, LT. COMMANDER CHAKOTAY, a human of indigenous ancestry, speaks
From starboard tactical station PETTY OFFICER SESKA GHEL, a Bajoran woman, with that species’ distinctive ridged nose and singular earring says
At the Conn station ENSIGN SAM LAVALLE, a human male interjects
At the Security station LT YAR, a human female says
Slightly embarrassed, Lavalle looks down at his station and mutters
At the Operations Station, HARRY KIM, a human male of Asian descent, gives Lavalle a sympathetic nod and mutters.
A signal sounds on Kim’s console. He turns to Riker.
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INT Bridge of the USS Defiant-day
The Defiant’s bridge is smaller and more cramped than the Enterprise. This is a ship designed for war, a legacy of the conflict with the Cardassians. The commanding officer, COMMANDER WILLIAM RIKER, sits in the center seat watching the Enterprise as she docks.
RIKER
So, that’s the Enterprise. She’s a big one. Practically a city in space Standing at the port tactical console, the ship’s Executive Officer, LT. COMMANDER CHAKOTAY, a human of indigenous ancestry, speaks
CHAKOTAY
You sound jealous, Will. Regretting turning down that XO position? RIKER (grinning)
And give up the Defiant? Not a chance, Chakotay. Anyway, I hear Picard’s a bit of a stuffed shirt. Don’t think we’d mix well. Liz Shelby can have him. CHAKOTAY
As I recall, you and Liz used to mix well. (laughs) From starboard tactical station PETTY OFFICER SESKA GHEL, a Bajoran woman, with that species’ distinctive ridged nose and singular earring says
SESKA
Picard is revered in the Bajoran Sector. The story of Picard’s journey from Bajor to the border was very popular in the refugee camps. Quite an odyssey. At the Conn station ENSIGN SAM LAVALLE, a human male interjects
LAVALLE (trying too hard to impress)
Odyssey like that ancient Earth story that tells the story of Odysseus and his journey home following the Trojan War? At the Security station LT YAR, a human female says
YAR
I’m sure, we’re all aware, Mr. Lavalle. Comparative literature is taught to all cadets at Starfleet Academy. RIKER
Comparative literature? Maybe you all would be more at home on the “School Bus.” (laughs)YAR
The Voyager? SESKA
A science ship? No thank you Slightly embarrassed, Lavalle looks down at his station and mutters
LAVALLE
I guess, not. At the Operations Station, HARRY KIM, a human male of Asian descent, gives Lavalle a sympathetic nod and mutters.
KIM
I wouldn’t mind. A signal sounds on Kim’s console. He turns to Riker.
KIM
Station is directing us to Pylon Three, Commander. RIKER
Take us in, Mister Lavalle.
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INT USS voyager bridge
The Voyager’s bridge is sleek and bright, with multiple science stations all manned by young officers. In the center seat is COMMANDER KATHRYN JANEWAY, a fortyish human woman. At her side is LT. COMMANDER JADZIA DAX, a Trill woman in her late twenties, the ship’s Executive Officer and Chief Science Officer.
I guess we’re playing with big kids now. War heroes and a Galaxy Class Starship
Oh, we can hold our own Jadzia. Science is at the core of Starfleet. Frankly I can’t wait to get out there. I hope this Commodore Sisko keeps things short and sweet. There are some readings in the Badlands I’d love to explore.
Benjamin isn’t one for long speeches, Captain. He’s direct and to the point.
That’s right you know him or knew him. Sorry, it gets a bit confusing with the whole multiple Trill hosts thing.
Imagine, how I must feel. (laughs). The Dax symbiont’s previous host, Curzon was close with Commodore Sisko. I have his memories, so in a way I know Sisko, but have never met him.
Not helping. Now I need some coffee.
At the Operations station, ENSIGN WESLEY CRUSHER turns to LT. TOM PARIS at Flight Control. Crusher is young, barely looking old enough to attend Starfleet Academy, much less be a graduate. Paris is a few years older, with a slightly cocky look.
Lt. Paris, do they even have coffee on this station? It was a Cardassian ore processing plant up until a few weeks ago.
It had better, Wes. Captain Janeway without coffee is not a pretty sight.
She’s right here.
INT USS voyager bridge
The Voyager’s bridge is sleek and bright, with multiple science stations all manned by young officers. In the center seat is COMMANDER KATHRYN JANEWAY, a fortyish human woman. At her side is LT. COMMANDER JADZIA DAX, a Trill woman in her late twenties, the ship’s Executive Officer and Chief Science Officer.
DAX
I guess we’re playing with big kids now. War heroes and a Galaxy Class Starship
JANEWAY
Oh, we can hold our own Jadzia. Science is at the core of Starfleet. Frankly I can’t wait to get out there. I hope this Commodore Sisko keeps things short and sweet. There are some readings in the Badlands I’d love to explore.
DAX
Benjamin isn’t one for long speeches, Captain. He’s direct and to the point.
JANEWAY
That’s right you know him or knew him. Sorry, it gets a bit confusing with the whole multiple Trill hosts thing.
DAX
Imagine, how I must feel. (laughs). The Dax symbiont’s previous host, Curzon was close with Commodore Sisko. I have his memories, so in a way I know Sisko, but have never met him.
JANEWAY
Not helping. Now I need some coffee.
At the Operations station, ENSIGN WESLEY CRUSHER turns to LT. TOM PARIS at Flight Control. Crusher is young, barely looking old enough to attend Starfleet Academy, much less be a graduate. Paris is a few years older, with a slightly cocky look.
WESLEY
Lt. Paris, do they even have coffee on this station? It was a Cardassian ore processing plant up until a few weeks ago.
PARIS
It had better, Wes. Captain Janeway without coffee is not a pretty sight.
WESLEY (worried)
She’s right here.
JANEWAY
Tom is not wrong, Mister Crusher. Take her in Tom and Lt. Torres has asked that you not scratch the paint.
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INT DEEP SPACE NINE Operations center.
The Operations Center is a mass of confusion as Bajoran and Starfleet engineers work on consoles, conduits and displays. At the center of it all is COMMODORE BENJAMON SISKO, a human male of African descent. At his side LT. ROM, a Ferengi in the uniform of the Bajoran Militia, who nervously glances at the PADD in his hand.
What’s the good news, Mister Rom?
Commodore Sisko… Uh, good news? Oh, you need a progress report. The replicators have uh…finally been reprogrammed and are no longer serving Cardassian gruel. The gravity plating in Pylon Five has been replaced. So, we can resume accepting the transports bring in Starfleet dependents.
Where did you find gravity plating? From what I’ve heard not even the Cardassian have that model anymore. On second thought, I don’t want to know.
Transporters are still off line, but I (pause) have a line on the needed parts. The Cardassian sabotage of the primary systems in Ops is more extensive than I first surmised and we may have to rebuild the entire system. The power core is still at only 70 percent.
Get the parts. Grab whoever you need to get the power at 100%. The ships that just docked may have the talent we need.
From across the room COMMANDER CALVIN HUDSON, the Commodore’s adjutant, a powerfully built human of African ancestry, makes his way to Sisko’s side.
Speaking of which, the command teams from those ships are on the way over. The Ferengi merchant wants his money up front for the use of his holosuites. And there’s a certain Bajoran Colonel who needs to talk with you.
Okay, Cal. Pay the Ferengi. Have the Colonel and the command teams meet me at the holosuites. Oh, and round up that Vulcan from Starfleet Intelligence, too.
Tuvok’s probably already there and knew before you did.
INT DEEP SPACE NINE Operations center.
The Operations Center is a mass of confusion as Bajoran and Starfleet engineers work on consoles, conduits and displays. At the center of it all is COMMODORE BENJAMON SISKO, a human male of African descent. At his side LT. ROM, a Ferengi in the uniform of the Bajoran Militia, who nervously glances at the PADD in his hand.
SISKO
What’s the good news, Mister Rom?
ROM (Nervously)
Commodore Sisko… Uh, good news? Oh, you need a progress report. The replicators have uh…finally been reprogrammed and are no longer serving Cardassian gruel. The gravity plating in Pylon Five has been replaced. So, we can resume accepting the transports bring in Starfleet dependents.
SISKO
Where did you find gravity plating? From what I’ve heard not even the Cardassian have that model anymore. On second thought, I don’t want to know.
ROM (more Nervously)
Transporters are still off line, but I (pause) have a line on the needed parts. The Cardassian sabotage of the primary systems in Ops is more extensive than I first surmised and we may have to rebuild the entire system. The power core is still at only 70 percent.
SISKO
Get the parts. Grab whoever you need to get the power at 100%. The ships that just docked may have the talent we need.
From across the room COMMANDER CALVIN HUDSON, the Commodore’s adjutant, a powerfully built human of African ancestry, makes his way to Sisko’s side.
HUDSON
Speaking of which, the command teams from those ships are on the way over. The Ferengi merchant wants his money up front for the use of his holosuites. And there’s a certain Bajoran Colonel who needs to talk with you.
SISKO
Okay, Cal. Pay the Ferengi. Have the Colonel and the command teams meet me at the holosuites. Oh, and round up that Vulcan from Starfleet Intelligence, too.
HUDSON
Tuvok’s probably already there and knew before you did.
I guess they must be?
They’ve been making new shows for over half a decade now. As they close shows down, they put new ones into production.
Cash must be flowing in the right direction for that to happen over a sustained period of time.
I don't know, I'll I can do is point to a long string of series revivals, series spin-offs, TV movies and direct-to-DVD features from series long dead but were popular back in the day. If they didn't think there was money in it, they wouldn't do it. Nobody woke up one morning and decided as a pet project they were going to blow money on a "Punky Brewster" revival (which they ended up blowing anyway, but only because nobody else woke up with them on that idea...).
I really hope that I never have to see that happen.
When or if it happens, you'll probably see my not so nice comments about it here!
I will hardly call the mediocre 2000's rebots "success".
If you're talking about ENT, I agree.
ST09 was objectively a success though.
And I didn't say they were successful everytime... but TNG? A blank slate with little to no legacy stuff (at first anyway). Gangbusters.
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True but Discovery featured TOS characters since the start and only let go of them when they travelled to the future, Picard is a TNG sequel eventually turning into a full blown reunion, Strange New Worlds is basically "TOS The Early Years", Prodigy is a Voyager sequel, Lower Decks is filled to the brim with guest appearances and references to 90s Star Trek and Starfleet Academy will be a Discovery sequel.
And before all of that we had the TOS reboot movies. Even the final season of Enterprise was very TNG and TOS reference heavy going so far as to bring Spiner, Frakes and Sirtis back.
Not a single Star Trek production in the last 20 years relied completely on a fresh set of characters, so I can definitely see a TNG reboot happening eventually.
ENT damaged Star Trek. A retro series and a mediocre one too was not what Star Trek needed back then.
Was ST09 really a success? I get the impression that many fans disliked it and it was definitely not the injection of energy for Star Trek which TNG was when it started.
Like Young Sheldon?
It made money. In those terms, as far as those who count the beans go, it was a success.
It brought in countless people to movie theatres who had never seen Star Trek before. That was part of the objective, so in those terms it was a success.
Critically, the movie was a something of a darling. So in terms of getting the media to say positive things about a franchise that at the time was dead in the water… yes, it was a success.
It’s a rather fannish take to look at it and declare it a failure because a minority of hardcore fans reacted badly to it. ST09 did everything Paramount expected of it and more.
Of course ST09 was a success in other words. Whether or not you (or I or any other member of this board) liked it is by the by. I didn’t particularly enjoy ‘Joker’ from a few years back, but I wouldn’t declare it a failure.
Picard taking command of the Stargazer would be a pretty good premise for a pilot.
Like Young Sheldon?
More like the Sean Patrick Flanery version of the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.
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