Spoilers Evil - Season 1
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Wow.. You can definitely tell the shift to Paramount + from CBS. The story lines are more intense/graphic and the sprinkling of F-bombs and brief nudity definitely make it a bit more adult. I know we're not supposed to like Leland, but I find him the most annoying part of the show. I do not enjoy his story line.
ETA: You can also really tell that Peter Scolari is starting to show his struggle with cancer.
ETA: You can also really tell that Peter Scolari is starting to show his struggle with cancer.
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I thought season 4 was the last season, they also added a four episode season 5?
Anyway the first two episodes of season 4 are up and running. Truly a sign from God that this weird awesome show is going to get a real planned ending.
Anyway the first two episodes of season 4 are up and running. Truly a sign from God that this weird awesome show is going to get a real planned ending.
Another thing, I'm currently rewatching Lost, and also watching Fallout. So SO MUCH Michael Emerson. In two of them he's a psychopath and in the other he's a robot.
Now they’re taking on the treatment of women in corporate environments by having the mother try to get ahead by chopping off a guy’s finger to be rewarded with an office that literally has a glass ceiling.
They turn her evil by paralyzing her and injecting her with pureed demon and instead of making her subservient demonic she’s independently demonic taking on misogyny in demonic corporations. I LOVE TIIS SHOW.
They turn her evil by paralyzing her and injecting her with pureed demon and instead of making her subservient demonic she’s independently demonic taking on misogyny in demonic corporations. I LOVE TIIS SHOW.
There's been a real Black Mirror vibe going on so far this season.
Sometimes I'm not quite sure what they're doing with Christine Lahti's character and just how much agency she's supposed to have of all the crazy shit she's involved with. It's all so batshit crazy it really doesn't matter too much for the most part. And yes, I cracked up at the glass ceiling.
Sometimes I'm not quite sure what they're doing with Christine Lahti's character and just how much agency she's supposed to have of all the crazy shit she's involved with. It's all so batshit crazy it really doesn't matter too much for the most part. And yes, I cracked up at the glass ceiling.
In the S4 premiere, she tried to justify her involvement with Leland and Company as being the need for work, etc., but her daughter was not having it, which was the right response, considering what Leland is doing.
Leland obviously revels in being a shit but it's weird because Sheryl does so many awful things but is so blasé about it if she even recognizes it.
It is a big question how much agency she really has. She's been on Team Eville ever since that time they infused her with demon slurry. She's been seducing and presumably killing or doing something else evil to random men and was complicit in the husband's kidnapping. But then she has physically threatened Leland off from going after her daughter and granddaughters. So it seems like she has *some* agency.
...and as of E2, she's doubled down on trying to establish her own purpose by trying to elevate herself in the company (despite the "manager" having no intention of ever placing her in a true leadership position). She's fully aware of the plan to bring Kristen into the fold (and most likely Lexis), and has not resisted the plan. Thanks to this behavior, I hope the showrunners do not have Sheryl pull some 11th-hour turn-the-tables move on her Satanic gang, because she's been a conscious, willing participant in their schemes up to this point.
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Loved this week's episode. More bizarreness and whiplash with the changing tones. One moment they have a father subconsciously coerced to kill his own daughter and passes his saving throw at the last minute. The next moment a demon is gorging itself on words from an exorcism and gets so fat it can't fit through the door to escape allowing a nun to pop him like a balloon.
I LOVE the Buffy vibe of Sister Andrea. I want to see somebody do a parody of the Buffy opening theme with Andrea whacking demons with shovels and gardening shears.
I LOVE the Buffy vibe of Sister Andrea. I want to see somebody do a parody of the Buffy opening theme with Andrea whacking demons with shovels and gardening shears.
Andrea Martin and Wallace Shawn are great supporting characters and it was good to see them be the focus of an episode.
The entire Andy subplot is--at times--tiresome; is he alive, or a reanimated corpse? Aside from being used by Leland, he's sort of just there, trying to fit back into the domestic role, but he's not very interesting.
Indeed, but the frustrating part of the scripting is David's continued disbelief in Sister Andrea's visions, when he has experienced quite a few himself. Its one thing for Kristen and Ben to attempt to brush everything off as some sort of hallucination, psychological trauma, etc., but David has and continues to experience visions, and encountered demons, so he should be more receptive to Sister Andrea's claims, otherwise, the stories take on the feel of showrunners wanting to Scooby-Doo / psychobabble every supernatural event.
Latest episode (without spoiling too much): Sheryl is a full-on villain with what she's doing through her granddaughters. This has to come to a very explosive end, as she's irredeemable at this point.
Kristen's bottling up her feelings about committing Andy was believable work from Herbers. What I did not find too believable was Kristen going overboard to antagonize her priest chaperones with that song; she assumed they did not understand English (not too wise, considering how priests often work in countries where they need to learn other languages), and in the end, yes, at least one did know the language.
Kristen's bottling up her feelings about committing Andy was believable work from Herbers. What I did not find too believable was Kristen going overboard to antagonize her priest chaperones with that song; she assumed they did not understand English (not too wise, considering how priests often work in countries where they need to learn other languages), and in the end, yes, at least one did know the language.
It's hard for me to consider Sheryl a full on villain just because her status of mens rea is not clear. We know that she was possessed by one of the demon lords against her will and it's not clear what percentage of her decision making process is hers and what percentage is the demon's.
I'm also wondering if Leland's attempts to push the child rearing onto Kristen is a strategic error. I know he intends to feed her to the baby, but I thought it was Kristen's influence that ruined her youngest as a candidate for the antichrist. If he gets Kristen raising the baby, and fails to kill her, he won't ever be the antichrist, just another precocious kid with a lot of sisters.
I'm also wondering if Leland's attempts to push the child rearing onto Kristen is a strategic error. I know he intends to feed her to the baby, but I thought it was Kristen's influence that ruined her youngest as a candidate for the antichrist. If he gets Kristen raising the baby, and fails to kill her, he won't ever be the antichrist, just another precocious kid with a lot of sisters.
Kristen has been seen to be losing it this season so it might be seen as a sign of that along with getting tipsy with the flight attendants (anyone have the address of that crash pad...). Her attempts to laugh things off have seem a little desperate at times so I think it's a sign of denial/not dealing with things.
They seem to be pushing the supernatural with the cases more and more, I don't know what a rational explanation for what happened with that box would be. Granted ever since the reveal of the demons it's a bit moot but normally there's been some kind of doubt. Even if Ben could believe someone hacked the plane's intercom I don't think it's so easy to explain away the box disintegrating from the holy water.
David should feel more sure with his faith but then again he is strapped with increasingly loonier priests at the top. Chukwudi Iwuji's Father Kabiru is pretty kooky lol. Some of these type shows I try not to be too critical and go with the ride as much as I can.
From what has been presented, anyone approached by Leland ultimately agrees to go all-in of their own free will, and Sheryl--despite knowing she's dealing with full-on demons working for anything other than the good of the people--has not backed away. Instead, and she was more than willing to use Andy as some sort of reanimated agent against her own daughter, actively participated in the entire shepherding the Anti-Christ business, knowing how the child was developed, and she's fighting to climb the ladder in the Satan cult, instead of trying to fight against it. Now, she's still working against her own family by revealing the identity of the baby to her granddaughters, asking them to conceal this from their mother.
She's directly involved in many of the events or plans that are eating away at the foundation of Kristen's family, and acting like a committed agent, rather than someone (theoretically) working against Leland from within the cult.
I understand your point. I just believe David--no matter what strange things his higher-ups do or plot--has experienced one supernatural creature or event after another for himself, and should not have doubts about the testimony of others, such as Sister Andrea. However, in this season, he appears to lean in the Ben direction with his some of its perceptions.
But how much of that is Sheryl and how much is the demon possessing her?
I'm not certain, except for a few things: she--like her daughter--was a hardcore atheist before running into Leland, and she seemed tailor made to be an agent for Leland/Satan, even after she discovered the truth behind the organization. Since that time, she's become more opportunistic, aggressively trying to do anything other than back away from a cult who has preyed on her daughter, at least two granddaughters and her son-in-law. Further, I do not believe her use of the reanimated Andy has anything to do with being possessed, as she despised him long before her association with the supernatural (as seen in early season one).
We also have to remember in this universe demons are clearly real. A scientific person would end up religious in this universe with the information the audience has.