The original idea was that they were supposed to go to the future on foot and Zora was waiting for them.
Spoilers I think I cracked "Calypso"
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I still find this kind of disgusting. Zora is a sentient AI and has feelings. They basically torture her by making her spend decades in isolation. Red Directive to save Craft? No. Still no justification.
Should have left it as a one off so the Federation didn't have to do something that could be considered evil.
Should have left it as a one off so the Federation didn't have to do something that could be considered evil.
I'm still curious as to the entire concept.
Why did Discovery need to look like its former version? I mean, I get it for the so called sacred continuity/canon some fans need. But in universe, I mean.
And does this mean Calypso is actually set in the 42nd century? Since Zora mentioned she evolved over a thousand years.
Why did Discovery need to look like its former version? I mean, I get it for the so called sacred continuity/canon some fans need. But in universe, I mean.
And does this mean Calypso is actually set in the 42nd century? Since Zora mentioned she evolved over a thousand years.
I liked the Calypso tie-in.
The red directive is a Craft thing, but maybe with broader implications for the timeline if he doesn't survive.
Does Kovich know all this in But To Connect?
The red directive is a Craft thing, but maybe with broader implications for the timeline if he doesn't survive.
Does Kovich know all this in But To Connect?
The question isn't "why remove the A?", it's "why did they add it in the first place?"
If there were plans for "Calypso", why did they alter Discovery's registry?
If there were plans for "Calypso", why did they alter Discovery's registry?
And by the way, "Calypso" could be in the 43rd century and not the 42nd.
I do hope we get a follow-up. I was disappointed to hear that season 6 would have dealt with it and we got cut short.
I do hope we get a follow-up. I was disappointed to hear that season 6 would have dealt with it and we got cut short.
Speculation Only: I think they made Discovery look like an older ship so, if someone detected it, they wouldn't think anything of it. Just an old derelict ship. In the earlier portion of the 1,000-year wait, people wouldn't think the same of the Discovery-A, with its configuration.
Concealment.
43rd century makes a lot of sense as craft seems to have a largely dim memory of the "long ago." This would be less plausible in the 33rd century.
Also, sentient life doesn't necessarily need company; that's anthropomorphizing Zora. We may presume for instance that the sphere itself had existed in some form of isolation for time immemorial. Also guardian of forever, I'm sure there are other examples.
Also, sentient life doesn't necessarily need company; that's anthropomorphizing Zora. We may presume for instance that the sphere itself had existed in some form of isolation for time immemorial. Also guardian of forever, I'm sure there are other examples.
I like the idea that the ship hadn't really been waiting there for a thousand years but with its original appearance restored it could plausibly appear like it had. That gives at least some justification for why they bothered to reset the refit and it could mean poor Zora was only isolated for decades rather than centuries.
It still sucks for poor Zora though.
It still sucks for poor Zora though.
What does an AI skull look like?
She can simply go on standby, sleep, etc. for centuries
Unlikely. Craft mentioned the V'Draysh and Chabon has confirmed on Instagram that its a syncope for Federation. Something like that doesn't usually happen over a few decades.
So yes, she waited there for a 1000 years.
V'draysh is already around as a term, it was mentioned in season 3's Far From Home.
Does Zora get lonely? Sapient doesn't mean human. Have they mentioned loneliness at all?
Yeah, I literally just found that out two minutes ago while deepdiving the subject a bit more.
So I suppose it could be possible.
Only one character used the term "V'draysh" and it was very early in season 3, and then never heard again for the rest of the show. That episode was probably written when they still thought "Calypso" would take place ~1000 years after the first two seasons, but then it becomes pretty clear they had changed their minds. Over the next three seasons, the show went to plenty of places on the fringes of galactic society where you might have expected to hear that term again and it was not spoken once.
So whenever something really nonsensical happens in Star Trek, we can now just say it was a Red Directive and it's on par with Discovery's finale.
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