"Going out on a high" - a new Trek Tradition?
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I don't know for sure yet, but it's starting to look that way.
I didn't keep up with Discovery after a few episodes into season 2 but I keep hearing good things about this final season. Does anyone know of a watch guide (yknow ones where people advise which episodes are worth watching, which are vital for plot, and which are skippable?). I appreciate they're subjective but would like to catch up without enduring all the dud episodes. If not, are there any seasons I could just outright skip?
(To add, not my intent to hijack this thread!)
(To add, not my intent to hijack this thread!)
Since each season of Discovery has its own beginning, middle, and end, you don't need to watch Seasons 2-4 to understand Season 5.
Just know that at the end of Season 2
They jumped 930 years into the future, where the rest of the series takes place.
I prefer Discovery seasons 1 and 2, Picard season 1 and the first two Kelvinverse movies, so each to their own
It isn't over yet, but I'd rank S5 at the bottom so far. Not one episode I'd call excellent in the bunch.
Nothing really horrible, though. I just don't really care about Moll or L'ak.
Though I do agree that S4 of Ent, S3 of Picard, and Beyond were the best of those iterations (the TATV disaster aside).
But then again, "All Good Things" is still the good standard for a finale, and "Undiscovered Country" was excellent.
Now, S7 of TNG, DS9, & VOY were not their strongest, but the actual finales were good. Great in TNG's case.
Nothing really horrible, though. I just don't really care about Moll or L'ak.
Though I do agree that S4 of Ent, S3 of Picard, and Beyond were the best of those iterations (the TATV disaster aside).
But then again, "All Good Things" is still the good standard for a finale, and "Undiscovered Country" was excellent.
Now, S7 of TNG, DS9, & VOY were not their strongest, but the actual finales were good. Great in TNG's case.
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Not sure yet if S5 is the best Disco season, but I don't think Beyond and PIC S3 are the best of their series anyway, so...
Same here. PIC 3 may actually be - it's certainly the one that would be one's favorite if one is a TNG fan, for obvious reasons - but I felt that PIC 1 was a stone cold masterpiece (minority opinion, I know). And Beyond, IMO, is the single worst Trek film - or second to Insurrection, if I'm in a generous mood. So the OP's thesis is shaky to begin with.
That said, DSC S5 was a definite improvement over the horrendous S4, which I will state unequivocally was the worst season of ST ever produced. In retrospect, that show's best season must've been 1 or 2. I have rewatched season 1 and found it actually okay, but that is mostly because the series went so downhill starting with season 3, so it's all relative.
Wow, that’s some intense dislike for “Star Trek: Beyond!” I thought that “Star Trek: Beyond” was pretty good, although somewhat forgettable. It had the usual humor, fun, and action of the reboot movies. I wonder what caused the intense dislike for it? I agree with your view on “Star Trek:Insurrection” though.
It's not one thing, but the whole way it plays out. It's so overtly oriented towards action setpieces which a plot barely strings together. The setpieces are mostly shrill and exhausting (Fast & Furious director?) and what's between them is mostly dull. Then there's the attempt to pay homage to TOS, which it seems to me was the reason for the fake-looking sets. But on the other hand, Kirk and Spock/McCoy are separated for the most part, which takes away from the chemistry that made TOS (and indeed much of the previous two reboot films). The guest characters are uninspired (ActionGirl! & Evil!RevengeVillain!) and the villain's motivation I still don't understand ("Federation is weak because they don't fight, so I'll destroy your space station, and I say that because I used to be a human MACO, although for some reason I'm an alien now" - hmm...).
So overall, it feels like a project made by committee moreso than any previous Trek film. Yes, there are some endearing moments, but t's cold and soulless, and it has nothing to say. Even Insurrection did, albeit not very compellingly.
When people say "for some reason" in their critique of something, that's usually an indication to me that they weren't paying attention and just want to actively dislike something "for some reason".
All of the information is right there.
Also, Jaylah was the best thing to come out of the Kelvin universe. My 2 cents.
I really enjoyed Discovery overall, but have to conclude that it didn't end on a high note for me. Picard did. Discovery didn't. Here's to hoping Lower Decks does! (Lower Decks has been more consistent than Discovery so it has that working in its favour to me)
All of the information is right there.
Also, Jaylah was the best thing to come out of the Kelvin universe. My 2 cents.
I really enjoyed Discovery overall, but have to conclude that it didn't end on a high note for me. Picard did. Discovery didn't. Here's to hoping Lower Decks does! (Lower Decks has been more consistent than Discovery so it has that working in its favour to me)
You're misquoting me. My saying "for some reason" did not occur in lieu of stating precisely what I don't like about it, but as a critique of what I see as a lack of motivation for the villain, or respectively a coherent plot motivation for why he changes form. "Why" meaning: what is that supposed to tell us? What's the point?
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