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Well that's not so bad but after that no updates or driver support. What about the inbuilt antivirus?
There will be no fixes for security vulnerabilities. I would suggest migrating the system to a virtual machine so that it can be backed up and then recovered more easily should it become infected.
 
I'm still on windows 7 with the first few service packs. I've reinstalled the OS many times since support stopped. Unless all you do is buy strange on the dark web, Windows X will be as safe and usable as 11 for years to come.
 
There will be no fixes for security vulnerabilities. I would suggest migrating the system to a virtual machine so that it can be backed up and then recovered more easily should it become infected.

I'm still on windows 7 with the first few service packs. I've reinstalled the OS many times since support stopped. Unless all you do is buy strange on the dark web, Windows X will be as safe and usable as 11 for years to come.


This makes me regret getting rid of my win 10 media. I could have kept one machine offline but not updated and still had fun. Same for win 7 silly me got rid of my media.
 
A quick Google search gave me the date of October 14, 2025.

Didn't realize it was that soon. But still, if Microsoft weren't so insistent on linking a Microsoft account, I don't think there'd be so much resistance. 90% of people probably just want to use a local account including businesses and educational institutions, but they appear to be making it harder to do so. I can imagine it being hell on IT people trying to set up multiple computers in an office.
 
Didn't realize it was that soon. But still, if Microsoft weren't so insistent on linking a Microsoft account, I don't think there'd be so much resistance. 90% of people probably just want to use a local account including businesses and educational institutions, but they appear to be making it harder to do so. I can imagine it being hell on IT people trying to set up multiple computers in an office.

Business and Education versions of Windows give the option of not using a Microsoft account, in part because they tie with Windows domains via active directory that provides centralized authentication.
 
In other words, a way to rapidly deploy them? They should still give home users the ability to choose the account type; Micosoft account if they want to, local user account should they want to, etc.
 
In other words, a way to rapidly deploy them? They should still give home users the ability to choose the account type; Micosoft account if they want to, local user account should they want to, etc.

nothing to do with the deployment as such (though businesses etc will often have gold images, deployment tools, centralised managment).

Microsoft's arguments for forcing links to MS accounts and forcing products updates is security - it stops people having weak passwords (although not re-using passwords) and not updating and leaving security holes unplugged.

And yes I know windows is full of security holes and yes I know the updates can and do break things.

Put I also know that users can be lazy. I've seen it professionally and been guilty of it personally even when I damn well should know better (and thank $deity that I use 2 factor authentication where possible).
 
You will be able to continue using Windows 10 after it expires, Microsoft will be offering support......for a price. I'm not sure how long that support will last, but currently Microsoft will continue to support Windows 10 after next year if you pay them.
 
You will be able to continue using Windows 10 after it expires, Microsoft will be offering support......for a price. I'm not sure how long that support will last, but currently Microsoft will continue to support Windows 10 after next year if you pay them.

this has been an option in the past but a) cost a boatload of money and b) only available to business/corporate customers.
 
I read about they were to ask for subscription money in windows 12 and ahead, i do however recognize than i didn't read the news article related just the comments of someone, is that true?
 
this has been an option in the past but a) cost a boatload of money and b) only available to business/corporate customers.

Microsoft is making it available to individuals, but for how long and how much it costs, I don't know and the article didn't mention it. Knowing Microsoft, it'd probably be cheaper just to get a new PC. LOL
 
Did you folks see the news about the new ‘Recall feature’ that’s going to be rolled out soon by Microsoft?

In a word… YIKES!

Just what I need — my computer automatically taking a screenshot every 5 seconds and storing/saving it ‘just in case’… Supposedly only on the local device (Riiiiiiiiiight, and there’s a bridge in Brooklyn for sale).

Loathsome, in a nutshell. Definitely time to switch to Linux.

Cheers,
-CM-
 
Did you folks see the news about the new ‘Recall feature’ that’s going to be rolled out soon by Microsoft?

In a word… YIKES!

Just what I need — my computer automatically taking a screenshot every 5 seconds and storing/saving it ‘just in case’… Supposedly only on the local device (Riiiiiiiiiight, and there’s a bridge in Brooklyn for sale).

Loathsome, in a nutshell. Definitely time to switch to Linux.

Cheers,
-CM-



OK this sounds horrible but I'm comfortable with Windows, every time I try Linux something goes wrong
 
OK this sounds horrible but I'm comfortable with Windows, every time I try Linux something goes wrong
In my opinion, Linux was ruined by Lennart Poettering and Kay Sievers. Systemd is an abomination. However, it's still preferable to Windows in not being controlled by Microsoft.
 
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There are still systemd-less distros
As for Windows, I only have 1 modern win10 machine and old(er) machines which i've been keeping around and still run the Windows version of their era.
So my FX 8350 and FX 4300 run win 8.1, both my Phenom II machines run Win7 and so on.
The win 10 machine is for gaming only, everything else is running Linux so browsing, graphics, office and other non gaming stuff is done on Linux, I personally use Linux Mint, started using it on an old laptop it was version 13.X so around 2013, I've tried other distros but I keep coming back to Mint.
 
Yeah, init is still fine if you're not operating in a corporate environment that mandates the distro to be used. Anything recently derived via Fedora, RedHat, Suse and Centos is going to have Systemd. It functions but it's a bugger to work with (not that I've have to for several years - it might have improved). I haven't tried Mint. It's probably time I did.
 
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