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Danica McKellar Becomes A Bible-Believing Christian After Leaving California

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Would you say the same, about an legally-innocent person who chose to love a convicted murderer? Everyone makes decisions that we either approve or oppose. That fact alone does not determine the boundaries for things like acceptance or rejection, speaking our mind or remaining silent. Freedom goes both ways, but it doesn't include a lack of consequence. We have temporary judges here on Earth, but God is the final one, and He knows what's at the deepest core of us all.

Did you just equate homosexual love to that of loving a murderer? Like... that the sin of murder is equal to the "sin" of homosexuality?
 
I wouldn't take that gamble, and neither would any other Christian who understands their faith.
Agreed.

[QUOTE="Oddish]Annoying, isn't it?[/QUOTE]Admittedly, I am starting to feel it. But so far, God has been merciful, helping me to retain my composure.

[QUOTE="Oddish]And besides, sarcasm is fun. :D[/QUOTE]It can be, for a short time...but after a while, its just a nuisance. Some of them say I'm not helping my cause, but then they use arbitrary labels, insults, and curses...completely unaware that they're not helping theirs.

[QUOTE="Oddish]As do I. And quite a few others here.[/QUOTE]It would be nice if we had more supporters. So far, the only regulars I've seen are you and Fireproof.

[QUOTE="Oddish]Not the only liberty we take. If we took Doc Brown's time machine back to Bethlehem, 12-25-0, we would find... nothing. We would have to go to Nazareth, where we would find a boy of five or six, named Yēshua.[/QUOTE]Bob Gale went on record for the 2002 DVD's commentary, saying "that's the one joke no one laughs at." Personally, I think its kinda clever.
 
Did you just equate homosexual love to that of loving a murderer? Like... that the sin of murder is equal to the "sin" of homosexuality?
Not directly, but my point is that we all make choices which God does not approve of...and if we refuse to repent, He will have no other option but to judge us for those decisions.
 
I get what you're trying to convey here, but I didn't choose who i am attracted to and I spent half of my life coming to terms with that.
At the risk of revealing too much of my own history, I didn't purposely choose to be emotionally drawn to a married woman, when I was 20 years old. But I still pursued her anyway, and if I hadn't repented, God would've been perfectly just to punish me for that.
 
You're absolutely right! Forgive my use of the incorrect word. Nobody chooses who they're attracted to.
Not a prob: I've read enough of your posts here to know where you were coming from. Just felt the correction needed to happen before someone else posting grabbed a hold of it.
As for the book in question, haven't read it but if the author suggests 'choice' or 'lifestyle', he may not be a bigot but he is definitely full of shit.
 
At the risk of revealing too much of my own history, I didn't purposely choose to be emotionally drawn to a married woman, when I was 20 years old. But I still pursued her anyway, and if I hadn't repented, God would've been perfectly just to punish me for that.
Not the same. I didn't get to choose my eye color either.
 
Well, I believe that while its still debatable whether emotions are sourced in our DNA, the choices we make are always deliberate on our part.
Not debatable to me. I'm known that who I was attracted to was an innate part of who I am for half a century. It took half my life to come to terms with that because the Judeo-Christian world culture I grew up in and lived in hates fags.
Which bi always gets counted as one.
 
Not a prob: I've read enough of your posts here to know where you were coming from. Just felt the correction needed to happen before someone else posting grabbed a hold of it.
As for the book in question, haven't read it but if the author suggests 'choice' or 'lifestyle', he may not be a bigot but he is definitely full of shit.

The Author in question, Frank Turek, has some rather old fashioned views on marriage.

From Wikipedia.
Turek argues in Correct, Not Politically Correct: How Same-sex Marriage Hurts Everyone that marriage lengthens lifespans of men and women, civilizes men, protects women, protects mothers, lowers welfare costs, and encourages a replacement birth rate, and he argues that same-sex marriage does none of these.
 
The Author in question, Frank Turek, has some rather old fashioned views on marriage.

From Wikipedia.
"Old" does not automatically mean "wrong", just as "new" does not automatically mean "right". You judge each one, according to their own merits and/or effects.
 
No. It this case it definitely means wrong.
Why? Because you don't like it, or because some deem homosexuality "socially acceptable?" Since when is that the proper determining factor?

The bottom line about all of this, is that I don't have any right whatsoever, to tell you or anyone else how to live. But as the eternal Creator of all life, God does, whether you believe in Him or not. If you want to rebel, that's your business. But as for me, I choose to do the best I can and submit. I'm not perfect, and I know I make mistakes, but that's where His love and mercy comes in. Focusing only on God's love or justice, at the expense of either one, only gives you half of the total picture...which results in an unreasonable bias either way.
 
Not directly, but my point is that we all make choices which God does not approve of...and if we refuse to repent, He will have no other option but to judge us for those decisions.

True. And I am glad that is a privilege He has reserved for Himself.

If God already knows the outcome, then free will is an illusion.

If it is, then it's very convincing.

Sure. As soon as you quote me where I pushed my beliefs onto you, I'll apologize.

No apology is requested.

Well, I believe that while its still debatable whether emotions are sourced in our DNA, the choices we make are always deliberate on our

I am convinced that people don't choose their sexual orientation. If they did, no sane person would have chosen to be homosexual, given the treatment they could expect through most of history.

Not debatable to me. I'm known that who I was attracted to was an innate part of who I am for half a century. It took half my life to come to terms with that because the Judeo-Christian world culture I grew up in and lived in hates [gays].

Maybe that's why my perspective is different. When I was at my worst, in terms of homophobia, I was not a Christian. And ironically, I had Christians telling me to stop being such an :censored:hole.
 
True. And I am glad that is a privilege He has reserved for Himself.[QUOTE/]Oh, believe me...I know I'm definitely not fit to be God. Not only because of my sinful history, but also due to my often-changing level of patience. Very often, I have to check and then re-check what I write on here, before posting it. I want to make my points clearly, without coming off as self-righteous or hateful.

I am convinced that people don't choose their sexual orientation. If they did, no sane person would have chosen to be homosexual, given the treatment they could expect through most of history.
This is one of those rare instances, where we will have to respectfully disagree...not only due to what I believe Scripturally, but also because I have yet to see conclusive evidence for the so-called "gay gene". And even if there were, genetic predisposition does not inherently lead to any action being absolutely moral. God determines that - we don't. I don't hate homosexuals, and I'm not afraid of them either. I simply disagree with the behavior they practice, and if they hate me because of it, that's their call.
 
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