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Danica McKellar Becomes A Bible-Believing Christian After Leaving California

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And when science contradicts their beliefs, atheists react identically. They and six-day creationists are more similar than either likes to admit.

There is not a shred of reputable science that contradicts an atheistic position.

Of course. Just as Lee Harvey Oswald shot Kennedy is a fact. But the evidence states that neither of the two acted alone.

There is not a shred of reputable science that indicates anything of the sort.
 
I'm not sure which of the thousands of versions of morality through history is the objective one. The one with slaves or without? With spousal rape or no? Pacifist or gun rights? Blasphemy? Individualism or collectivism? Monogamy or polygamy? Child marriage? Veganism? Honour shame or innocence guilt?
 
Out of curiosity though, do you believe that the Bible is the unassailable word of God? And if so, do you live by it 100%? And if not, why not? How do you choose which parts to ignore?
If you're defining the word "unassailable" as "unable to alter, destroy, or challenge", then my opinion would waver, depending on how you define and use those exact terms. I recognize that over the centuries, the various texts of Scripture have been somewhat altered in various ways, but I also believe the core message has been reliably preserved. Some people have either damaged or even destroyed certain fragments, mostly because they didn't like the implications of what was written. As for being challenged, people do that all the time, and they'll continue to do so until Jesus returns - its part of having free will. But just because something or someone is being challenged, that doesn't suddenly make them wrong right away.

You asked me if I live by the Bible 100%, and my brutally honest answer is "no". But this might be a surprise to you: no Christian does, not even the most devout or carefully practicing believers. We're saved, but we're still fallible, and we still sin or make mistakes on occasion. That's not an excuse, just part of being human. I know that over the course of my life, I've told lies, stolen things (even small ones), used God's name in vain, treated certain things and people as being more important than Him, lusted, committed spiritual murder, adultered, disrespected my elders, and failed to honor holy days. That covers all of the Ten Commandments - thankfully, God does not require believers to be infallible, just honest, humble, and repentant. I don't purposely choose to ignore any part of Scripture, but there's still times I fail anyway. What matters is that when these things do happen, we acknowledge them, confess our sin, and repent instead of trying to rationalize them.

Non-Christians often accuse God of being egotistical, hateful, contradictory, and otherwise unreasonable, among many other less-tasteful descriptions. But to be honest, I think many of these protests are done from them not wanting to submit to His authority. There's a popular saying in the church which goes, "some people want to be their own God", and I think that's sadly the case. I posted a video of Frank Turek on a previous page, and one question he has often asked people is, "If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?" He's said that many have often replied with "No"...to which his response is, "Then for you, its not a head problem. Its about your heart. You don't want there to be a God because if there is, then you are accountable to Him."
 
There is nothing scientific about the Discovery Institute -- it's a conservative Christian think tank.
I could easily accuse non-Christian organizations of being the same way, but I'm not going to automatically make that assumption, just because I disagree with them.

Intelligent Design is pseudoscience, dressed in a lab coat. It uses scientific-sounding terminology, with the intent of misleading those who are not versed in science and scientific method into believing that there is actually a coherent logic holding it all together.

But there's no there there. It's all holes. It's hokum from start to finish.
Have you seen the 2008 documentary "Expelled", starring Ben Stein? He interviewed and revealed the histories of various people who either lost their jobs or were otherwise punished, for refusing to accept the evolutionary theory in the corporate world. Admittedly, I didn't understand a lot of the specific scientific aspects, but I still enjoyed it. Mr. Stein is a very smart man.

The writer of the list you cited, while he did earn a geology degree, is not a scientist. He's a lawyer and a Creationist. The book from which that list is an excerpt is not a scientific text.
If he's earned a geology degree, then why do you not consider him a reliable scientist? It is only because you disagree with his beliefs, or is there another reason?
 
I could easily accuse non-Christian organizations of being the same way,

You really couldn't.

Have you seen the 2008 documentary "Expelled"

Yep. It's pseudoscience nonsense filled with lies and has been widely discredited by the scientific community.

starring Ben Stein?

Another Asshole.
Mr. Stein is a very smart man.

Mr. Stein is an idiot. You seem to have a type.
 
You really couldn't.



Yep. It's pseudoscience nonsense filled with lies and has been widely discredited by the scientific community.



Another Asshole.


Mr. Stein is an idiot. You seem to have a type.
Again, more assumptions and insults, just because you either disagree with me or the people I reference. I humbly suggest you refrain from making this so personal, before Cultcross comes in here and shuts this whole thread down...unless of course, that's secretly what you're hoping for.
 
When science contradicts the Bible, believers go to crazy lengths to justify their positions. It’s quite a thing to behold. Their hostility toward academia has, in part, helped make America dumber.

Evolution is a fact. “Intelligent Design” is creationism in a new suit. There is no debate. There is no “both sides.” This is flat earth, geocentric nonsense.
Except I can’t find any explanation for how Jesus “evolved” to being white. I don’t get White Jesus.
 
There is not a shred of reputable science that contradicts an atheistic position.

Of course. I should ignore such pseudoscience as cosmology, astronomy, biology, cytology, mathematics, and statistics... on the word of a person who got abusive when I stated that humans are a sexually dimorphous species.

I'm not sure which of the thousands of versions of morality through history is the objective one. The one with slaves or without? With spousal rape or no? Pacifist or gun rights? Blasphemy? Individualism or collectivism? Monogamy or polygamy? Child marriage? Veganism? Honour shame or innocence guilt?

If there's no Creator, and we're all a bunch of random carbon composites that just "happened", then all morality is irrelevant. Whatever we do to each other, it's all just chemical reactions in assorted organic compounds. Nihilism FTW.

Again, more assumptions and insults, just because you either disagree with me or the people I reference. I humbly suggest you refrain from making this so personal, before Cultcross comes in here and shuts this whole thread down...unless of course, that's secretly what you're hoping for.

I wouldn't blame them. This topic does seem to have proceeded far beyond one moderately famous person's life decision.
 
Except I can’t find any explanation for how Jesus “evolved” to being white. I don’t get White Jesus.
That is an artistic choice, made by many from multiple backgrounds, and with various motives. In truth, its almost certain that Jesus would have appeared as any other 1st-century Jewish man. He was born in Bethlehem, and raised in the town of Nazareth in Galilee. His ancestry is primarily recorded in two of the Gospel accounts, Matthew and Luke. Both of their lists have some overlapping, but also differ in the matter of which ancestors are named. Another worthy note to mention, is that the climate of ancient Israel was not just dry - the temperatures ranged from about 40 to 85 degrees Fahrenheit, plus there were rainy and dry seasons. Israel was located in the Fertile Crescent, an area that had fertile soil because of the rivers going through it. All of these things combined would result in distinct attributes regarding anyone of that time's physical appearance, including Jesus...but since cameras didn't exist back then, we'll never know for sure until He comes back.
 
Why would it be irrelevant? If there's no creator, all we have is how we treat each other - seems pretty relevant to me.
Brad Stine put it this way, regarding the matter of eternity - "If there is no God, and its just eternal unconsciousness, you'll never know. But if you're wrong, you'll know forever...and its not a risk anyone should take."

I think with that simple statement, he makes a pretty good point. Those who reject God are literally gambling with eternity, while those who worship Him are trusting in what He promised. The two worldviews are inherently different, and can't be reconciled.
 
That's just Pascal's wager, which is a terrible reason to belief in anything. If what we believe matters, the chances of guessing the right belief are pretty slim.

I'd rather focus on the life that we know exists; the primary concern of one Jesus of Nazareth actually.
 
That's just Pascal's wager, which is a terrible reason to belief in anything. If what we believe matters, the chances of guessing the right belief are pretty slim.

I'd rather focus on the life that we know exists; the primary concern of one Jesus of Nazareth actually.
You're free to your view, of course - I'm not debating that at all. I mainly mentioned it, so anyone open to it could read it and actually think it over.

As for the historical existence of Jesus, most scholars don't deny He walked the Earth, or that He was crucified - they just bicker like crazy about His miracles, and His claim to be God.
 
Of course. I should ignore such pseudoscience as cosmology, astronomy, biology, cytology, mathematics, and statistics...

Not a single scintilla of scientific evidence from these disciplines contradicts atheistic positions. None. Zero.

Well, there is the Atheist’s Worst Nightmare: THE BANANA!!

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I think with that simple statement, he makes a pretty good point. Those who reject God are literally gambling with eternity, while those who worship Him are trusting in what He promised. The two worldviews are inherently different, and can't be reconciled.

Waste your life in servitude to something that absolutely doesn't exist. Living a life that promotes prejudice against anyone deemed sinful by a work of fiction written centuries ago.

Or.

Live your life to the fullest knowing that life is what you make it without the influence of of fictional supernatural diety.

I know which one I'm betting on.
 
Not a single scintilla of scientific evidence from these disciplines contradicts atheistic positions.
For once, we agree. Because there's a lot more than a "single scintilla" of evidence, from the Goldilocks nature of the cosmos that permitted our existence to the immense complexity of the very cells that I am using to mentally manufacture and physically type in this reply.
 
Waste your life in servitude to something that absolutely doesn't exist. Living a life that promotes prejudice against anyone deemed sinful by a work of fiction written centuries ago.

Or.

Live your life to the fullest knowing that life is what you make it without the influence of of fictional supernatural diety.

I know which one I'm betting on.
You can't prove the non-existence of God to an absolute level, because humans don't know everything. We'd have to be supernatural ourselves, to fully comprehend such concepts. And your claim of Scripture being fiction, is solely based on the fact that you don't like what it says.
 
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