"Star Trek: Picard" Scores at Saturn Awards!
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Translation of this entire discussion: "Mine's bigger than yours!" And "I don't like that they didn't pick what I like!"
I think there's some jealousy at play too. Even though people will deny it. Better luck next year. I'm sure whatever you want to win will win.
I think there's some jealousy at play too. Even though people will deny it. Better luck next year. I'm sure whatever you want to win will win.
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Does this really increase those odds or is it a nice piece of paper that amounts to little?
SNW is fine. Raining on PIC's parade isn't. Don't you think when SNW is in its final season, it'll win all kinds of Saturn Awards? It'll happen. Just wait your turn. And when it does, I'm not going to be raining over anyone's parade over in that forum.
At the end of the day, it'll just be a nice piece of paper. I don't think it's going to be THE thing that'll tip a decision about greenlighting Legacy either way.
A ring?
Oh no...cast it in to the fire!
Oh no...cast it in to the fire!
PIC S3
SNW S2
Only counting the top results for simplification, PIC S3 got an average of 9.6, while SNW got an average of 9.3.
Whoever has the time can get the full averages including all votes
There were simply more great moments and fewer silly ones IMO in PIC S3 than in SNW S2.
SNW S2
Only counting the top results for simplification, PIC S3 got an average of 9.6, while SNW got an average of 9.3.
Whoever has the time can get the full averages including all votes
There were simply more great moments and fewer silly ones IMO in PIC S3 than in SNW S2.
As I was watching PIC Season 3, I probably gave it a 13 out of 10! When I re-watched it and re-rated it, I ended up landing on 9.2.PIC S3
SNW S2
Only counting the top results for simplification, PIC S3 got an average of 9.6, while SNW got an average of 9.3.
Whoever has the time can get the full averages including all votes
There were simply more great moments and fewer silly ones IMO in PIC S3 than in SNW S2.
I haven't seen every episode of SNW Season 2 yet. I will eventually. When I do, the average for the season will probably be somewhere in the 7s. If I had to guess. So, not exactly "SNW Sucks!!!!"
I think the hostility towards PIC Season 3 some people have is way out of proportion. "Nostalgia!" Come on. Lighten up. That's not the worst thing ever. "Yes, it is!" Actually, no it's not.
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The weirdest conclusion I'm seeing is that if you liked PIC more than SNW, you must have hated SNW. One can be better than the other without that other being crap 
Anyway, here's the detailed result counting all votes (popular instead of EC I guess):
PIC S3: 8.4, 8.0, 8.8, 9.0, 9.0, 8.7, 7.9, 8.4, 8.7, 8.9 => Average: 8.58
SNW S2: 7.7, 8.8, 8.1, 7.5, 8.3, 7.9, 9.1, 8.7, 7.8, 8.5 => Average: 8.25
No matter how you look at it, on this TrekBBS as of now, PIC wins too.
Anyway, here's the detailed result counting all votes (popular instead of EC I guess
):PIC S3: 8.4, 8.0, 8.8, 9.0, 9.0, 8.7, 7.9, 8.4, 8.7, 8.9 => Average: 8.58
SNW S2: 7.7, 8.8, 8.1, 7.5, 8.3, 7.9, 9.1, 8.7, 7.8, 8.5 => Average: 8.25
No matter how you look at it, on this TrekBBS as of now, PIC wins too.
Picard's use of the mystery box in Season 3 was disappointing for me. Jack just was...flat.
No numerical rating from me. Just average or above average but not top tier.
No numerical rating from me. Just average or above average but not top tier.
I'm not exactly a fan of DISCOVERY, but I didn't freak out when it won similar awards...
I don't care who wins what.
I ask what it does and how it helps?
Because I don't understand these things. Call me dim, but the awards feel very arbitrary to me...
And, I don't care if SNW, Discovery, or Andor all win them. I'd ask the same question. Will I feel more entertained now when I watch them?
I think screaming "nostalgia" as a criticism of PIC season 3 just comes off as really dumb.
You mean the series that from the outset was based around a legacy character from a TV show that was on the air 30 years ago, in a season that was explicitly marketed as a reunion of characters from the old show, had some nostalgia? SHOCKING!
There's a lot of things that do nostalgia and do it badly. This wasn't that. They could of put them on the Enterprise-D in episode 2 and reunited all of them in a hacky way. They didn't do that, and I thought it did what it set out to do very well.
I still hold to the notion that Picard season 3 is thematically similar to The Voyage Home. In The Voyage Home, the whale plot is not really what the movie is about in the same way that the Borg-Changeling conspiracy isn't really what Picard season 3 is about. They're both, story-wise, a means to an end. At the end of The Voyage Home, we don't know who sent the whale probe. We don't know why it wanted to talk to humpback whales. Hell, we don't even know what the whales and the probe said to each other. Are those plot holes? I don't think so because all of that doesn't matter. What matters is that at the end we believe those characters are a family that deserve to be together on the bridge of the Enterprise-A, and we're happy that they realize it too.
That is exactly what Picard season 3 is ultimately about. It's not about Borg assimilation. The entire season builds to those characters together again on the Enterprise-D as a family in the same way as Kirk and crew were in The Voyage Home.
I guess I don't think that and miss other members of the family.
And the nostalgia is my least likely criticism of Season 3.
I mean congrats to the winners but I guess I'm just the cynical one today.
Same.
