Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 4x01 - "Twovix"
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Sleepy targ!
I like to think that was a deliberate shot at Voyager's
writers.As a technical test, it's fine. As a test of character, it's not.
Michael, and his deleted spouse, have not had the opportunity or necessity of evolving into people. Ergo, they're essentially video game characters. Deleting Michael's wife is like smacking a Skyrim NPC on the head with your ebony battle axe of the inferno: a bit antisocial, but not a crime.
This. Troi's test, which I DO NOT think she passed, was intended to determine if she would act with the necessary ruthlessness, when the situation demanded it. It was not a puzzle to be solved.
I'm sure it's a very cool museum. With a special extra exhibit featuring a certain purple haired once and future JG.
Very good. Just caught up. We are awash with love letters to previous series this year, but it’s nice to see Voyager honoured.
“I’ll just find out what Janeway did and do that”.
Then later…
“She murdered him… he begged for his life”
“Janeway didn’t mess around…”
Perfect.
“I’ll just find out what Janeway did and do that”.
Then later…
“She murdered him… he begged for his life”
“Janeway didn’t mess around…”
Perfect.
You can't compare Wesley & Trois' tests. Wesley did not KNOW it was a test. He thought his life and the lives of the others were ACTUALLY on the line. Troi, someplace in her mind knew "Computer, Reset" would undo any mistake she made and anyone going to her "suicide mission" was not real.
Solid 8/10. A few thoughts:
-The Whale Probe in the intro was a nice touch
-The Macro-Nanoprobe was brilliant
-“I miss my wife”
-Kinda disappointed we didn’t at least get a cameo from someone at the Earth scene at the end
-The Whale Probe in the intro was a nice touch
-The Macro-Nanoprobe was brilliant
-“I miss my wife”
-Kinda disappointed we didn’t at least get a cameo from someone at the Earth scene at the end
They both did both tests.
Since they both went to the Academy and they are both Bridge officers.
Although, as an empath, it's probably a lot harder to gaslight Deanna.
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It brings me so much joy that Voyager is a cheesy museum. Imagine what all the other ships from the museum in Picard are like.... so much cheese. A robot Kirk that sits in the 1701-A chair and occasionally demands the ship go "thataway" as disinterested kids leave gum under Spock's console desk. A robot Uhura trying to recite Klingon from a pile of textbooks. Kids taking turns to press the fire button (clearly marked "mode select" at the helm as torpedo sound effects blare from speakers. Glorious.
Literally cheesy in this case.
An 8 for Twovix. Hooray, they all (mostly) got promoted!
Lots of fun VOY references in this one, with a lot of holodeck characters from the series appearing as well as the ship, and the theme.
The different combinations of characters that T'illups kept creating for his army were hilarious.
Lots of fun VOY references in this one, with a lot of holodeck characters from the series appearing as well as the ship, and the theme.
The different combinations of characters that T'illups kept creating for his army were hilarious.
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indeed. Also retroactively explains why taking Voyager or any other ship but the D for the Picard finale, as suggested by many, was not an option: those ships have been turned to exhibitions and are in no way battle-worthy anymore.
Depends on if the Borg adapted before the probe shut the cube down.
Wouldn't it depend on how Borg manages their power?
Undoubtedly, as well as the probe's capacity for draining it. It's hard to say who would win in the end.
Holy cow, color me surprised.
I thought this was a great episode. A genuinely funny premise that escalated nicely, some solid character work and an episode that both paid loving homage to and was a brutally vicious take down of "Voyager" at the same time.
I was certainly not the Voyager's biggest fan, but I got a lot of the in-jokes (and didn't feel alienated by the ones I didn't, which "Lower Decks" occasionally manages to do.) I appreciate that this plays both sides, giving Voyager's fans and critics plenty to enjoy. It threaded the needle perfectly.
Now why one of my biggest critiques of the show is that it too often is just a string to hang references on and I wouldn't want every episode (obviously) to be this much of a total and specific parody/homage, but for what they were going for here, they hit the bull's eye.
If future episodes maintain even close to this level of quality, consider me a happy viewer.
I thought this was a great episode. A genuinely funny premise that escalated nicely, some solid character work and an episode that both paid loving homage to and was a brutally vicious take down of "Voyager" at the same time.
I was certainly not the Voyager's biggest fan, but I got a lot of the in-jokes (and didn't feel alienated by the ones I didn't, which "Lower Decks" occasionally manages to do.) I appreciate that this plays both sides, giving Voyager's fans and critics plenty to enjoy. It threaded the needle perfectly.
Now why one of my biggest critiques of the show is that it too often is just a string to hang references on and I wouldn't want every episode (obviously) to be this much of a total and specific parody/homage, but for what they were going for here, they hit the bull's eye.
If future episodes maintain even close to this level of quality, consider me a happy viewer.
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The point of Troi's test is that it didn't even occur to her to that sending someone to their death. It's something she personally never, ever had to contemplate in the course of her duties and it's why she failed the test several times. And why Riker had to stop her from continuing to try. If she wasn't going to get it, she wasn't going to get it.
Yes, it wasn't "real", but that wasn't the point. The point was her mind wasn't thinking like a commander's must.
Which is why I think she should have failed the test.
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