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Spoilers AHSOKA series [Spoiler Discussion]

Glad to see I'm not the only one worried about Sabine's Lothcat. I had just assumed she probably left it with Ryder or the Senator.
It's actually pretty shitty storytelling to needlessly withhold crucial information from the audience for no reason. This was originally supposed to air as one episode with a week gap before the "explanation."

If Sabine is an expert in deciphering magic maps, that's not something you hold in your back pocket for no damn reason, particularly when the entire story hinges on it. "Ooh, scary bad guy might come back! This seemingly random, unrelated thing will tell us how....eventually!" The audience shouldn't be so far behind the characters.

Even in serialized storytelling, a single episode should still be able to function.

It's not my fault that they don't know how to write properly.
I take it you never watched shows like Lost or Manifest? Shows like that will often go years without answering a lot of questions set up in their first episodes.
When it comes to shows like this I find it's best to think of the individual episodes as being the chapters in a book, rather than the entire book. You can't expect a book to lay out every detail in the first two chapters.
I was trying to get the 'this ancient map actually tells us where Thrawn ended up 10 years ago.' bit.

I guess it will be the space whales initiated some type of beyond-galaxy hyperspace jump and the ancient map is the only thing that knows about getting to the other galaxy and possibly following them from the other galaxy is how that ancient race initially got to the Star Wars galaxy.
The impression I got was that the map wasn't to Thrawn, but that the Purgills took him and Ezra to the place where the map leads. I'm assuming this isn't a coincidence and the Purgills are somehow connected to this path to the other galaxy.
EDIT: Btw, I have to say that the CGI is On point.. Looking great! and I can't tell if the Lothcat is real or CG
Just from the way it moved and looked, I think it was a combination of CGI and a puppet. When it was jumping and walking around it looks CGI, but when it was laying down or making simpler movements it looked like a puppet.
Sabine's Lothcat is even cuter than Grogu!

I want, no, need a Lothcat!
Yes, I'm hoping she brough them with, but I doubt it.
Pretty much this. I did try watching Rebels but lost interest after a few episodes.



I've only watched the first episode - knew very little about it going in. It's hard to get past how it's presented, as though I ought to already be invested in these characters. I'm not. I recognise them, but beyond that ... well, I'm familiar with Ahsoka, having watched Clone Wars.

It was okay, but seeing that it's basically a live-action extension of a show I haven't watched is a letdown. I'd have hoped for a fresh story.

Aside from another season of Andor, I think the only thing that might perk my interest in Wars again is a story set far, far away from the Skywalkers.
There is The Acolyte, which will take place during The High Republic era, which was hundreds of years before The Phantom Menace.
 
Meant to mention this before but it slipped my mind: if Thrawn is indeed the last "missing" Grand Admiral; does that mean they've somehow accounted for Sloane, or did they mistakenly believe she was killed at Jakku? Would be interesting if it turns out the reason she was nowhere to be seen and apparently long gone in the ST is if she fled back to the known galaxy and surrendered.
I may be wrong about this, but I thought Sloane wasn't promoted to Grand Admiral until just before Jakku? If so, it's possible New Republic records just don't have her listed as a Grand Admiral.
 
Qui-Gon is the Tommy John of the Star Wars universe. Everyone who gets stabbed in the body with a light saber these days gets Qui-Gon surgery and comes back better than before.
 
I think in the post-ROTJ world, anyone with ties to the old Jedi Order, official or not, can call themselves a Jedi or not if they like, and other people will refer to them as Jedi regardless. At this point, Ahsoka is a ronin- a wandering samurai, SW style.
I wasn't really talking about that. I just mean that there's something inherently objective about the crawls, regardless of what people may and may not identify as.
No doubt the Whills will be bickering over this point in the 'From a Certain Point of View' book for this show in 40 years.
The other one is the Crone. And I was watching, but didn't spot Morai (the owl) anywhere. I'll be surprised if we don't see her eventually.
Oh I know what The Other One is. I was making a Discworld witch reference. ;)
I'm sure it has its nice spots. Baron Fel and Corran Horn weren't from the slums!
Generally speaking, people like that are the reason the slums exist in the first place.
Does Sabine have parents or siblings? They can feed the cat
They may or may not have been incinerated.
At 21:45, when Ryder is asking Jai where Sabine is, you can see a lone speeder bike zooming down the road in the background. Since only story protagonists ever use that road, it's obviously Sabine.
It was a fun thought, but look again. That shot faces the ocean side of the city, not the plains, and there's another speeder coming the opposite direction too.
Clan Wren's stronghold was on Krownest, not Mandalore.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Krownest
True enough, but Clan Wren was supporting Bo Katan's uprising, so they could have been there for the Night of a Thousand Tears.

Qui-Gon is the Tommy John of the Star Wars universe. Everyone who gets stabbed in the body with a light saber these days gets Qui-Gon surgery and comes back better than before.
Pretty sure Maul got Qui-Gon right in the sternum or thereabouts (aka where all the important bits live.) Sabine's was in the lower abdominal flank. Worse case; she now has a length of cybernetic intestine to replace what the sabre cauterised, plus the cool scar.
As for GI; same deal as with Maul & Vader. Kept alive by pure hatred. Reva may have done some serious long term damage though, given how much weight he looses in the next 5 years . . . ;)

I may be wrong about this, but I thought Sloane wasn't promoted to Grand Admiral until just before Jakku? If so, it's possible New Republic records just don't have her listed as a Grand Admiral.

You might be right. I honestly can't bring myself to go back and re-read the Aftermath novels to find out.
Mostly I just find it curious they they seemed to build this character up so much in various media, and then do nothing much of anything with her in the grand scheme of things.
 
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I take it you never watched shows like Lost or Manifest? Shows like that will often go years without answering a lot of questions set up in their first episodes.
When it comes to shows like this I find it's best to think of the individual episodes as being the chapters in a book, rather than the entire book. You can't expect a book to lay out every detail in the first two chapters.

It's okay for a show to have mysteries. It's not okay for it to skimp on vital storytelling information.

Knowing the difference is crucial.

It's fine to not know everything about the bad guys in the first two episodes. Who are they? Where are they from? Do they have hidden connections to our heroes? That creates intrigue. Fine.

We do need to know at least enough about them to perceive them as a legitimate thread and the show does that. But only sort of.

It doesn't make a case for why Thrawn is the most important man in the galaxy and why his return will usher in a new Empire.

In other areas, as my initial comments pointed out, the show skimps on info you do actually need.

Why does Ahsoka need Sabine's help in deciphering the map? It's never explained. It's never revealed what her special skills or insights are that allow her to twist the twistable sphere in a way Ahsoka couldn't figure out on her own. Given Ahsoka' bitchy reluctance to have anything to do with Sabine, that info is even more critical.

It's also not clear how an ancient artifact is going to help find a man who has been missing for five years. That's also information that the show needs to properly function.

The "mystery box" way of thinking has led to screenwriting ruin in the past 15 years and made people forget how to actually craft stories.
 
In episode 2 after Baylen puts the sphere in the pedestal and asks Shin to contact Morgan, he looks up and you can hear and just barely see the shadow of a purgil in the clouds.
 
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So, Ezra and Thrawn are in a galaxy far, far away?
Hmmmm.
The position the beam pointed to looked suspiciously like roughly where Earth would be in the Milky Way.
 
It's never explained. It's never revealed what her special skills or insights are that allow her to twist the twistable sphere in a way Ahsoka couldn't figure out on her own.
It is explained. Ahsoka says thinks her artistic insight will help her see things others can't.

It's also not clear how an ancient artifact is going to help find a man who has been missing for five years. That's also information that the show needs to properly function.
It has to do with the Purgil, you see art them circling the point of light going towards the galaxy in the map when its activated. Purgil took Thrawn and Ezra away.

It's not okay for it to skimp on vital storytelling information.
It is fine when it is written as one big story.
 
Rebels had a very rough start for me and it took me a few seasons to start getting into it. Darth Vader appearing in the ABC network television edit of the premiere episode was the main thing that interested me in the early days of the series. By the third season, though, the series had taken off and developed its own strong voice as a worthy chapter of the franchise.

It's hard to imagine the show not existing. It's become integral with much of the current Disney Era phase of the franchise.

Hmmm. I'll watch a series recap before the next episode.
 
I honestly feel like Rebels got better faster than Clone Wars did. I know at least one die hard fan (and I mean someone who has read most EU books and stuff and has been a fan since the 90s) that prefers Rebels over Clone Wars.
Hmmm. I'll watch a series recap before the next episode.
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I've never had a cat and I still couldn't help but think about how it was going to get fed, surely one of the biggest gaffes in Star Wars history. It didn't help that they showed Sabine explicitly feed it in a very manual manner.
 
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