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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

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Anyone else think of the 2013 Star Trek videogame when they see the SNW Gorn? They're visually quite similar.

Although McCoy's line about performing a C-section on a pregnant Gorn makes exactly zero sense now.
That game's storyline was complete bullshit in a Trek context. Vulcan scientists in the 23rd century can bridge the gap to another galaxy with their own technology, and the Gorn are extragalactic in origin? Come on!
 
I think looks might be a little deceiving here, because without highly advanced technology, a colony of 5000 souls isn't self-sustaining. It's not even really a big enough gene pool to provide for a healthy future population.

I do agree, and my interpretation has been that the colonies basically aren't self-sustaining, though they would have the 23rd-century equivalents of water treatment, waste management, power generation, etc. etc.

However! Your idea that they're like, advance themed communities is really interesting. And I could see how that would be a great way for the UFP to drive otherwise comfortable people to new places. Sort of a themed gated community, except there are no gates and that's going turn out to be a problem, actually.

Anyway, very cool way of thinking about it.

Tired of using the public biobeds in your neighborhood clinic? On Minos Korva, the totally accurate Victorian Earth canopy bed in your 19th century mansion IS a biobed...
 
If they rejected modern medicine Starfleet wouldn’t be there at the colony’s invitation.
On the Ready Room Mount said it was filmed on a backlot

I highly recommend watching the Ready Room, Some good BTS info on the Gorn puppets and suit.
I know it's one of those things you're not supposed to think about, but it's funny that you'd create a cosplay society where you wouldn't have your own 23rd century doctor, but you'd go out of your way to ask the Federation for help. It feels like these are the type of people that would refuse to replicate a car, but would replicate all the parts needed to build a car because they're really pedantic and annoying.

And yeah, some articles have confirmed it's the same set as Reacher. I guess if they were like, close to the Yellowstone set, maybe they could have had an Old West planet after all. lol
 
I think looks might be a little deceiving here, because without highly advanced technology, a colony of 5000 souls isn't self-sustaining. It's not even really a big enough gene pool to provide for a healthy future population.

I suspect colonies like this are cosmetically 'quaint' in appearance, but boast rather imposing technology underneath the surface. You wouldn't see it on a TV show set, of course, but if Trek was the real world it would be there. The doctor's office might look like something out of Little House on the Prairie, but his couch would be a full biobed complete with a pullout touchscreen, and a rack of modern instruments and drugs. Their gaslight lamps would be powered by a fusion or even a dilithium-channeled matter-antimatter reactor, perhaps located underground. Make no mistake, a colony like this would simply be a 23rd Century version of Westworld, but without the barfights and robots. Because 5000 people can't live in a genuinely recreated Mayberry without the farms, factories, and other industrialized stuff that goes into building and sustaining it. So it has to be replicated, or based on modern 23rd Century tech.

Just my thoughts on it.
I agree but I think these kinds of colonies might also not have great capacity to handle any stresses put on them, which is how you end up with situations like Tarsus. And then later on in TNG and DS9 you have colonies where the schtick seems to be "and we built it with HARD WORK not fancy machines or replicated food" that...also aren't great at handling stresses or are run by cult leaders like Alixus.
 
I agree but I think these kinds of colonies might also not have great capacity to handle any stresses put on them, which is how you end up with situations like Tarsus. And then later on in TNG and DS9 you have colonies where the schtick seems to be "and we built it with HARD WORK not fancy machines or replicated food" that...also aren't great at handling stresses or are run by cult leaders like Alixus.
You might also have colonies that are to lay down the initial groundwork and build towards sustainability with the next shipment. But, that's only if things go according to plan, and plans never survive first contact with the enemy.
 
Anyone else think of the 2013 Star Trek videogame when they see the SNW Gorn? They're visually quite similar.

Although McCoy's line about performing a C-section on a pregnant Gorn makes exactly zero sense now.
In the Kelvinverse the Gorn are Vegetarians ;o)
I think looks might be a little deceiving here, because without highly advanced technology, a colony of 5000 souls isn't self-sustaining. It's not even really a big enough gene pool to provide for a healthy future population.

I suspect colonies like this are cosmetically 'quaint' in appearance, but boast rather imposing technology underneath the surface. You wouldn't see it on a TV show set, of course, but if Trek was the real world it would be there. The doctor's office might look like something out of Little House on the Prairie, but his couch would be a full biobed complete with a pullout touchscreen, and a rack of modern instruments and drugs. Their gaslight lamps would be powered by a fusion or even a dilithium-channeled matter-antimatter reactor, perhaps located underground. Make no mistake, a colony like this would simply be a 23rd Century version of Westworld, but without the barfights and robots. Because 5000 people can't live in a genuinely recreated Mayberry without the farms, factories, and other industrialized stuff that goes into building and sustaining it. So it has to be replicated, or based on modern 23rd Century tech. Their soda fountain probably looks like it's right out of 1955, but what comes out of it is resequenced food like you get out of the ship's synthesizers. All cosmetic.

Just my thoughts on it.
Yeah, Trek colonies are much too small. A few generations and you'll be mating with your first cousin
 
They may need support because 5000 is the very early nucleus of what they expect to be a much larger colony in five years.

They filmed this in the fake town built for Reacher. Lots of astroturf.
 
In the Kelvinverse the Gorn are Vegetarians

Yeah, Trek colonies are much too small. A few generations and you'll be mating with your first cousin

More colonists might arrive in waves. One thing we've never seen in Trek but I imagine would exist are big colony ships capable of moving 10-20 thousand colonists and a buttload of prefabs, gear, and supplies at one time, complete with huge shuttles and multiple 48-person transporter stations.

Such ships could be used for evacuations and disaster relief, as well. In fact, I imagine that a significant portion of the 'massive Starfleet' that we never see would be logistical type ships like this. Their crews might pine for duty aboard a starship like the Enterprise, but this is what you get when you finish in the bottom half of your academy class. ;)
 
Having shaken that hand while he was still with us I can tell you I still find it fascinating he was missing his middle finger of his right hand for so many years and so very many fans still don't know it was ever missing.

I was totally clueless. Granted, I haven't watched a ton of TOS, and most that I have watched was as a little kid pre internet. That's two actors with missing fingers the interwebs has put me on to (the other being Walter Jones from Power Rangers). Never let it be said Gore's invention was good for nothing.
 
It's visible in all of TOS perhaps once or twice and you have to be looking for the appearance to even notice it. Star Trek V when he's holding the silver bag of ration food that Uhura gives him is the other time I'm aware of.
 
The morons who fill up the Trekmovie talk backs are hitting new lows on this episode.
 
My third 10 for the season.

The Gorn have been handled very well. You don't see them often, but when you do, you know the Enterprise and crew are in for a real challenge. That's always the best way to handle a good villain.

The buildup to the cliffhanger was handled well, and with us not knowing Captain Matel's fate, I'm curious if she makes it or not.

I love the new Scotty. THIS is an actor that truly embodies the character he is playing so I don't mind seeing him pop up again. Scotty once told Picard that the Enterprise was his first ship as Chief Engineer, so I'm curious if that happens in season 3. I think the current engineer is all right, but I wouldn't mind seeing her replaced.

While this season had a few downers, I still think this is Star Trek at its best. Will pick this up for 4K while I wait for season 3.
 
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