What do you guys actually like about discovery?
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Nothing.
Actually, one thing. The idea that the light levels in the mirror 'verse were different than in our own, ridiculous as that sounds.
Actually, one thing. The idea that the light levels in the mirror 'verse were different than in our own, ridiculous as that sounds.
I mean, if you look at the Mirror Episodes the lighting is definitely different.
Works well enough for me.
Though, I am the strange one who loves the MU in TOS and DSC.
The light thing was a great thematic addition to the mirror universe. It made for nice dramatic lighting and also suggested the characters were 'on the dark side' so to speak, and embraced the darkness in human nature rather than the 'light' (Starfleet and its morals).
I think the Mirror Universe in Discovery is the Definitive Version.
In TOS, they only scratched the surface. The ENT two-parter was equal parts revisiting the Mirror Universe and revisiting TOS, and still only scratched the surface. With the DS9 episodes, the Terran Empire was already gone.
Only in DSC do we get a full look at the Terran Empire in all its glory, in a larger story, and allowed to go all-out in a way that the censors on regular television wouldn't have allowed.
In TOS, they only scratched the surface. The ENT two-parter was equal parts revisiting the Mirror Universe and revisiting TOS, and still only scratched the surface. With the DS9 episodes, the Terran Empire was already gone.
Only in DSC do we get a full look at the Terran Empire in all its glory, in a larger story, and allowed to go all-out in a way that the censors on regular television wouldn't have allowed.
I love the TOS original episode. It’s both fun and, at least the first time I watched it, magic as one of the first science fiction stories about an alternate universe I had encountered. Perhaps because I was young at the time. It’s also well made.
I can not stand the preposterous cartoon-y mirror universe in DS9 and ENT which always feel like skits to me and I skip them now on rewatches.
But, to your point, on this re-viewing of Discovery where I’m really enjoying Discovery, I actually think the mirror universe is great in it. It feels full and like an actual universe. It also returns to the idea in TOS but explored more fully of what darkness people COULD have or, in the case of Voq for instance, how circumstances re-contextualize choices.
Also, it has a satisfying look. And it doesn’t hurt that Georgiou and Lorca are both awesome characters played by great actors.
(P.S. Dark Stamets is also my favorite shady twin since creepy mirror Chekhov)
It also returns to the idea in TOS but explored more fully of what darkness people COULD have or, in the case of Voq for instance, how circumstances re-contextualize choices."
You hit on something Discovery explored really well with the mirror universe; nature vs nurture and how that plays into identity. One of S1's main themes was identity and the different things that can influence and shape it and how does one resolve the combination of things nature and nurture both contribute in making us who we are.
That's my favorite reason of all.
I love the characters of Discovery. I love Michael's journey from this Vulcan-raised, awkward-as-hell, young woman who's trying to suppress her emotions but failing, blossoming through adversity and pain into this confident, assertive, compassionate, empathetic leader. I love seeing Saru go from a timid, isolated wannabe to a leader of his people. I love seeing Tilly grow from a kid into a young woman who's willing to let go of old dreams and embrace new ones when she realizes they don't fit her anymore. I love seeing Paul learning to let his walls down and bond as a family with Hugh and Adira. I love seeing Hugh become this thoughtful, compassionate counselor after struggling through this horrible existential pain of death and resurrection. I love the star-crossed love story of Michael and Ash!Voq and Ash!Voq and L'Rell. I love Michael and Book together. I love President Rellick. I love Kovich. I love L'Rell -- I really hope she comes back in SNW. I love the clear influence of DS9's storytelling on DIS in its emphasis on political themes and political morality. And I love, I love, I love Tig Notoro as Jett Reno. We need more hilarious, sarcastic butch lesbians in Star Trek.
I love how uncomfortable this show makes bigots.
Flip that on its head and you have a person who delights in something just because it makes homosexuals uncomfortable.
I’d never watched this show before, and have played Seasons 2-4 on my phone over the last week while I did stuff around the house or when I had some downtime (cuddling the mildly sick 3 year old gave me a lot of that over the weekend).
The only character I really like is Reno. Most of these people talk about themselves way too much. I don’t know how Reno tolerates any of them, other than Georgiou. Seems like she would have blasted herself out of an airlock by now, rather than deal with all the emoting.
The only character I really like is Reno. Most of these people talk about themselves way too much. I don’t know how Reno tolerates any of them, other than Georgiou. Seems like she would have blasted herself out of an airlock by now, rather than deal with all the emoting.
Also, it’s a very pretty show and I like that they introduce new species/planets, and moving them into the 32nd century was a good move because that ship didn’t feel at all like it belonged pre-TOS.
Imagine if Wesley had been a deeply insecure ginger who giggled and stammered a lot. And made a lot of speeches.
I need Reno to be in the background watching everyone bawl, just shaking her head and muttering, “I should have stayed on the asteroid.”
Imagine if Wesley had been a deeply insecure ginger who giggled and stammered a lot. And made a lot of speeches.
I need Reno to be in the background watching everyone bawl, just shaking her head and muttering, “I should have stayed on the asteroid.”
Agreed. I can make it work with TMP, but TOS is a little harder.
*imagines* Ok, so like one of my friends.
Got it.
There's always room for the deadpan character.
Great scene. Really got me in those *snaps fingers trying to remember* What's called? Feels?
Yeah, that's it!
KIRK: I wish I were on a long sea voyage somewhere. Not too much deck tennis, no frantic dancing, and no responsibility. Why me? I look around that Bridge, and I see the men waiting for me to make the next move. And Bones, what if I'm wrong?
MCCOY: Captain, I
KIRK: No, I don't really expect an answer.
MCCOY: But I've got one. Something I seldom say to a customer, Jim. In this galaxy, there's a mathematical probability of three million Earth-type planets. And in all of the universe, three million million galaxies like this. And in all of that, and perhaps more, only one of each of us. Don't destroy the one named Kirk.
