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Things we only realized later about DS9

I always thought that clock was a really neat piece of tech and always wanted to know how it was supposed to work.

But I also loved it when Sisko kind of hisses out: "It's a clock!" since at that point none of us have any idea WTH he's doing.
 
I always found Quark equal parts irritating and quite powerful. He is greedy, self-serving and also capable of generosity and capability. He evolves more than the humans do. He shows the potential of humanity far better than many of the era's human characters.
 
I always found Quark equal parts irritating and quite powerful. He is greedy, self-serving and also capable of generosity and capability. He evolves more than the humans do. He shows the potential of humanity far better than many of the era's human characters.

Isn't that also because he has more, erm, room to evolve- within our frame of reference, that is? All those Starfleet people are already 'good' from the start, they can only mature a bit, gain a larger perspective on things.
 
Isn't that also because he has more, erm, room to evolve- within our frame of reference, that is? All those Starfleet people are already 'good' from the start, they can only mature a bit, gain a larger perspective on things.
Possibly but he also starts out as extremely antagonistic. He is not meant as a sympathetic character or even someone people are to trust or even like. He's a stereotype of a greedy business owner that people are taught to despise from an early age. That he grows at all shows that growth is possible for all.
 
It's okay, happens a lot on this site. Not hijacking, just threads drifting down the list as they age. I'm sure there's an even older one before mine.

While I don't necessarily like the 'don't revive necrothreads' rule, if it were ever replaced by a rule 'make absolutely sure you don't create a new thread if an old one existe, even if it was last posted in 20 years ago' , that would mean a lot more work for everyone :)
 
"Progress" has a darker ending than I thought... consider Mullibok's options.
- Try to start over somewhere else? It took him a lifetime to accomplish what he had. What would be the point of starting from nothing so late in life?
- Live in some retirement facility? A man as irascible and independent as he would not do well there.
- Stsrt over in some city somewhere? Doing what exactly?
- Use his farming skills to aid the provisional government? They were the ones who destroyed his home and left him with nothing.

The wheels of progress will always roll onward... but we must always remember those who get dragged underneath them.
 
Yeah, I don't think Mullibok is being super hyperbolic when he tells Kira that if she forces him to leave he'll die.
Maybe not physical death right away, but I think they did kill him when they forced him to abandon his home.
 
HomeWARD… that was another episode with a dark interlude

Kira was put in an untenable position in Progress. I loved when Mullibok started quoting Kira’s “big ugly tree” story to The Sisko, and The Sisko says “Go On…” But this was Kira’s worm-can to deal with, we have to assume she kept up with Mullibok after he was moved to Bajor.

wasnt progress also the episode that introduced the Self-Sealing Stembolts?
 
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Especially the ones who give their lives to an industry only to see it rendered irrelevant by progress. I expect there are a lot of Mulliboks in our world.
 
One of the Doctor Who episodes I found especially touching was "The Wire." The story itself was entirely passable. The ending was incredible. In the story there is a dad who has come home from WW2 and is angry all the time with his son. The Doctor notes at the end that he might just be angry because the world left him behind, had no use for him, and he is expected to just accept it.

Mullilboks definitely exist in our world and they are continuously seeking fulfillment in some measure. It's why I take advice from many people willing to give it. Even if I don't use it their experience matters.
 
wasnt progress also the episode that introduced the Self-Sealing Stembolts?

Yes, the writers wisely decided that an episode as dark as Progress needed some great comic relief to wash it down.

People do have to move sometimes, and that's sad but it's no one's fault. My parents had to move in the early 1960s when the house they were in was condemned to become freeway right of way. My great grandparents wisely decided moving out of Czechoslovakia in the early 1930s would be the smart move.

If Mullibok chooses to be a donkey about it and nasty to people who try to give him the best possible option, that's on him. Maybe he'd be an unpopular loner in a retirement community, but he's a great storyteller when he wants to be. If he chose to tell stories I bet people would want to be at his table at dinner.
 
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