I think Hydra was way too well entrenched by the time the Skrulls came to earth for them to be easily found out.
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HYDRA had began infiltrating SHIELD not long after the agency's founding in 1949. Which meant that it had been entrenched within SHIELD, other spy agencies, military forces, governments, corporations, etc. for four-and-a-half decades by the time the Skrulls first arrived.
I mean of course the real reason is that the Captain Marvel movie and the idea of "friendly" Skrulls wasn't written when yet the whole Hydra plot was conceived. But just thinking on it retroactively; that's an impressive feat of evasion on Hydra's part.
Consider; who better to spot a double agent than a Skrull? They pretty much have to be naturally talented lie detectors, and you'd think just being around the likes of Sitwell or Garrett for 5 mins should have raised all kinds of red flags for one of them. Even among other spies who habitually have walls up, they should have stood out as theirs' would still be up even among other SHIELD, when everyone else's were more relaxed.
Hydra would have to have identified *every* one of Fury's Skrull agents and not only make sure their plants never crossed paths with them, but also make sure that evasiveness doesn't appear suspicious in and of itself.
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The Skrulls aren't superheroes. Which is why Gravik is trying to get them powers.
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We don't even know how many Skrulls Fury had working with him, and he wasn't the head of SHIELD back in Captain Marvel meaning HYDRA would have had people who could find out about the Skrulls he wouldn't have known about.
it seems to be suggesting Fury's reputation as a miracle worker was because he was using the Skrulls as an ace in the hole.
He* did say to Peter in Venice that he used to have eyes everywhere. That appears to have been a lot more literal than we might have thought.
*Actually Talos pretending to be Fury.
We also don't know that he cleared this with whoever was SHIELD's Director in the 90's (Peggy still, perhaps?) So it's just as possible he was running them all off the books. Indeed the fact that Natasha's dump of SHIELD/Hydra's files into the public domain clearly didn't seem to feature Skrulls at all seems to prove that hypothesis. If it had, then Fury wouldn't have to ask where Rhodey heard of them.
But that does beg the questions of whom in the U.S. government were aware of the Skrulls, who else they debriefed, and why Fury wasn't included.
From what Rhodey said, it sounds like there's been a few crashes over the years that the US recovered. Not surprising considering they're refugees; some of those ships had to have been the interstellar starship equivalent of a makeshift raft made out of old pallets, ducttape, rubbish bags, and wishful thinking.
Neither were Clint Barton and Natasha Romanoff. Neither were Tony Stark, James Rhodey, Sam Wilson, Scott Lang and Hope van Dyne without their suits.
I will continue watching "Secret Invasion", but to be honest, my opinion of it is not as high as I thought it would be.
That's a good point. So more of a highly-classified intel brief among certain Air Force personnel than anything more sinister as I alluded to.
Sure...but you do get that these Skrull refugees are more background agents than highly-trained fighters using high-grade technology, right? That's a huge gap.
Pretty much, and the since I think "present day" is currently 2025 or '26, said briefing taking place "15 years ago" would have placed it around 2010-11 ish, right before Avengers, maybe smack in the middle of that whole "busy week" thing. Indeed, Thor's little party in New Mexico may have been the impetus for the US brass to have a briefing on known potential alien threats.
No, she's not Talos's wife, Soren is dead. Her name is Varra; she's the same Skrull from the '97 flashback. The one with socialworker vibes that brought in Gravik.
She was the Skrull he was talking to about kid Gravik during the 90s flashback.
Really? They were aliens familiar with high tech and pretty skilled fighters as well. At least in "Captain Marvel".
But they were refugees. They don't have access to all of that high tech. They only had the basic items with them.
I don't think she is, it's just that Talos's reveal that Gravik's people killed Soren has her starting to question her loyalties.
They're also mostly just people, not soldiers. If their technology alone was enough then they wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.
I mean there's "advanced technology" and then there's advanced technology. From our perspective it may all look the same crazy alien space tech, but from their perspective the Kree could have all kinds of technological advantages. Mostly though what they likely have is just sheer volume of resources. It is an Empire after all.
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