Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[Yaroze86]

We know that at least four starships on the charts are not Constitution-class ships. USS Excelsior (Excelsior-class), USS Oberth (Oberth-class), USS Constellation (Constellation-class) and USS Lantree (Miranda-class). (USS Whorfin may also be something different)

USS Potemkin is a known Constitution-class starship, and USS Kongo is likely one as well.

USS Endevour, USS Republic, USS John Muir, and USS Helin are also likely Constitutions.

In my head canon I think they are the following from Operation Retrieve. (Hi btw, first post.) Hopefully I will post a discussion soon I would like some input on.

USS Whorfin NCC-1024 Oberth-class
USS Republic NCC-1371 Constitution II-class
USS Scovill NCC-1598 Oberth-class
USS Potemkin NCC-1657 Constitution II-class
USS Helin NCC-1692 Oberth-class
USS Kongo NCC-1710 Constitution II-class
USS Lantree NCC-1837 Miranda-class
USS Emden NCC-1856 Constitution II-class
USS Endeavour NCC-1895 Constitution II-class
USS Springfield NCC-1963 Miranda-class
USS Constellation NX-1974 Constellation-class
USS Excelsior NCC-2000 Excelsior-class
USS Korolev NCC-2014 Constitution II-class
USS Challenger NCC-2032 Excelsior-class (Due to the fact Constellation is still an NX or maybe a Constitution to match the other shuttles.)
USS Ahwahnee NCC-2048 Constitution II-class
USS Eagle NCC-956 Constitution II-class
USS Oberth NCC-602 Oberth-class
USS John Muir NCC-1732 Oberth-class

 

[Enterprise1701]

Y'know, that reminds me how recent licensed has only continued the oddities of registries not being assigned in plain chronological order. (Comics and games are of course non-canonical, but they have to be plausible at the time of publication as well as not be too outlandish for approval.)

The console game Star Trek: Resurgence features the Centaur-class U.S.S. Resolute (NCC-92317) active in 2380, having previously seen action during the Dominion War.

The comic miniseries Picard - Countdown features the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Verity (NCC-97000) active in 2385. That registry is recycled from the generic Odyssey-class NPC model from Star Trek Online, which had previously introduced the Odyssey-class as newly launching in 2409.

And canonically, PIC 1.10 introduced the Inquiry-class U.S.S. Zheng He (NCC-86505) in 2399. Captain Riker boasts that it is the toughest, fastest, and most powerful ship ever built by Starfleet, and there must be some truth to the bluster, implying the Inquiry-class and the Zheng He are very recently-built as of 2399.

If we consider that the Defiant-class U.S.S. Defiant (NX-74025) and the Intrepid-class U.S.S. Voyager (NCC-74656) were both officially launched in 2371, then one simply wonders how and why Starfleet went back and forth through over 20,000 registry numbers sometimes within the same decade over the course of 30 years when it took over 80 years for Starfleet to go from NCC-01 to the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701).

 

[DaveyNY]

Y'know, that reminds me how recent licensed has only continued the oddities of registries not being assigned in plain chronological order. (Comics and games are of course non-canonical, but they have to be plausible at the time of publication as well as not be too outlandish for approval.)

The console game Star Trek: Resurgence features the Centaur-class U.S.S. Resolute (NCC-92317) active in 2380, having previously seen action during the Dominion War.

The comic miniseries Picard - Countdown features the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Verity (NCC-97000) active in 2385. That registry is recycled from the generic Odyssey-class NPC model from Star Trek Online, which had previously introduced the Odyssey-class as newly launching in 2409.

And canonically, PIC 1.10 introduced the Inquiry-class U.S.S. Zheng He (NCC-86505) in 2399. Captain Riker boasts that it is the toughest, fastest, and most powerful ship ever built by Starfleet, and there must be some truth to the bluster, implying the Inquiry-class and the Zheng He are very recently-built as of 2399.

If we consider that the Defiant-class U.S.S. Defiant (NX-74025) and the Intrepid-class U.S.S. Voyager (NCC-74656) were both officially launched in 2371, then one simply wonders how and why Starfleet went back and forth through over 20,000 registry numbers sometimes within the same decade over the course of 30 years when it took over 80 years for Starfleet to go from NCC-01 to the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701).

Perhaps many of the contract numbers were assigned but then never used because the starships were never built.
Or they were assigned to lesser ships that we just never got to see.

 

[Tuskin38]

The comic miniseries Picard - Countdown features the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Verity (NCC-97000) active in 2385. That registry is recycled from the generic Odyssey-class NPC model from Star Trek Online, which had previously introduced the Odyssey-class as newly launching in 2409.

They fixed that in the Trade Paperback release. The USS Verity is now NCC-97007.

Not that it changes your point about high registry numbers. I just wanted to point it out.

 

[Enterprise1701]

If only 10,000 registry numbers were shaved off to make the Resolute NCC-82317 and the Verity NCC-87007. That still would be a little questionable in the face of the Zheng He as NCC-86505 in 2399, but much less glaring.

 

[drt]

Updated version of the 1/1000 scale model kit, coming soon from Round 2.

In other words, goodbye fifty bucks.

 

[Dukhat]

Round 2 is also making the Cerritos.

 

[Racefuel]

Meanwhile the 1/1000 Enterprise-D sits in "ooooh you'd like us to do that, huh?" land.

 

[137th Gebirg]

I'd much prefer a 1:350 Reliant.

 

[Dukhat]

I'd much prefer a 1:350 Reliant.

Or at the least, have them reissue the retooled 1:537 version. That one’s going for stupid prices on eBay.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Or at the least, have them reissue the retooled 1:537 version. That one’s going for stupid prices on eBay.

Is that the original AMT one?

 

[Dukhat]

Is that the original AMT one?

Yes, but they fixed the issue with the saucer not being thick enough, and the weird ‘tile’ effect on the saucer rim and sides.

 

[Markonian]

Or at the least, have them reissue the retooled 1:537 version.

I'm a noob. Why such an odd number?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Yes, but they fixed the issue with the saucer not being thick enough, and the weird ‘tile’ effect on the saucer rim and sides.

There were issues with a lot of the AMT models. I remember getting well over a hundred dollars for the Reliant kit about 8 years ago.

 

[Dukhat]

I'm a noob. Why such an odd number?

That’s the scale of the original AMT/ERTL TMP Enterprise model kit. The Reliant kit mistakenly had 1:650 scale on the box (which was the scale of the original TOS Enterprise model kit), but the actual scale is 1:537 to match the TMP Enterprise’s scale.

 

[HotRod]

Beautiful shot of the Big E. Really shows the new curved look to the neck.

I kinda dig it.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Beautiful shot of the Big E. Really shows the new curved look to the neck.

I kinda dig it.

For me, the odd part is that they curved the front of the neck, but left the back of the neck straight.

Why not curve both sides of the neck?

It's odd that only the front section of it is curved.

 

[HotRod]

For me, the odd part is that they curved the front of the neck, but left the back of the neck straight.

Why not curve both sides of the neck?

It's odd that only the front section of it is curved.

It's hard to see from this angle, but I'm pretty sure the back of the neck does have a slight curve.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Y'know, that reminds me how recent licensed has only continued the oddities of registries not being assigned in plain chronological order. (Comics and games are of course non-canonical, but they have to be plausible at the time of publication as well as not be too outlandish for approval.)

The console game Star Trek: Resurgence features the Centaur-class U.S.S. Resolute (NCC-92317) active in 2380, having previously seen action during the Dominion War.

The comic miniseries Picard - Countdown features the Odyssey-class U.S.S. Verity (NCC-97000) active in 2385. That registry is recycled from the generic Odyssey-class NPC model from Star Trek Online, which had previously introduced the Odyssey-class as newly launching in 2409.

And canonically, PIC 1.10 introduced the Inquiry-class U.S.S. Zheng He (NCC-86505) in 2399. Captain Riker boasts that it is the toughest, fastest, and most powerful ship ever built by Starfleet, and there must be some truth to the bluster, implying the Inquiry-class and the Zheng He are very recently-built as of 2399.

If we consider that the Defiant-class U.S.S. Defiant (NX-74025) and the Intrepid-class U.S.S. Voyager (NCC-74656) were both officially launched in 2371, then one simply wonders how and why Starfleet went back and forth through over 20,000 registry numbers sometimes within the same decade over the course of 30 years when it took over 80 years for Starfleet to go from NCC-01 to the U.S.S. Enterprise (NCC-1701).

I know the irl reason and it's hard to come up with a retcon to fix it. But a possible explanation you could maybe use is that the numbers mean more that just the order pumped out.
What if areas are assigned a prefix as in all the 74xxx are made in a certain place or by a certain team and all the 91xxx are a different place/team. A bit like how a car reg can mean time, place and build number.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

For me, the odd part is that they curved the front of the neck, but left the back of the neck straight.

Why not curve both sides of the neck?

It's odd that only the front section of it is curved.

For me, the odd part is the neck has never been curved on the TOS or TMP versions. I mean, there's already enough strange differences that they didn't need to make (angled pylons, huge row of lights on the saucer, massive impulse deck).