Jack Crusher. 2nd Officer of the Enterprise-G

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  1. Lordcommanderdarkwolf

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    it was wartime.
     
  2. C.E. Evans

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    Yeah, I could see Jack briefly being left the conn in a pinch (like Chekov briefly was in Star Trek 2009), but unless there's a time jump and Jack has moved up the chain of command, Mura's currently the more obvious choice for second officer right now.
     
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    Kirk's promotion in ST 09 was ridiculous, but I'd say this is worse.
     
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    Agreed. It's this rapid acceptance of Jack in to Starfleet and expecting him to just jump in with little to no experience inside the actual organization that makes the proposal of him as second officer deeply frustrating. He doesn't have the temperament to fit in to a highly structured organization, and chain of command type organization like Starfleet. And that should be valuable within the Federation, and working to support the Federation's efforts in different ways.

    But, no. He's thrown in to Starfleet because that is the highest form of service to the Federation.
    Yup.
     
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    Earlier I suggested that Jack could join either the Enterprise's marine detachment or the medical staff. Now I've got it: BOTH.

    Jack would be an excellent combat/field medic. Indeed, that's exactly what he's been DOING for most of his life. So I still think he should join the Ent-G's marine detachment, just the medical divison of it. (I'm sure the G's marine detachment does have its own medical staff.)
     
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  9. TerryTrek

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    Assuming this show ever happens (and the chances are not good), there will be a time jump.

    Thanks to the strikes, any potential unfilmed Trek series is still years away from happening.

    Matalas mentioned he wants Seven, Raffi, Jack, Shaw and Sidney on this cast. We could likely get a new Tactical officer, Doctor, Comm officer, and Science officer as regular characters.

    I like Mura. He's essentially a recurring background character.
     
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    I'd be interested to know Mura's backstory. Like how, as a Bajoran, he came to have a human first name (Matthew). A war orphan from the occupation, maybe? Adopted by a human family?

    If Legacy ever becomes a thing, I hope they get him back.
     
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    Or it's also a name on Bajor.
     
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    ^ actually I was referring to his given name (Matthew).
     
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    Same
     
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    LOL, Jack was right. It is nepotism, because both of his parents are admiral.
     
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    Yes, I agree. I think 2nd contacts are actually more important than the first. Because it is a more actual diplomacy action than an incident where 2 aliens cross each other in space. With 2nd contacts, we brew more diplomatic deals. Like cultural exchange, trade, discussing about embassy for both parties, discussing about non aggression treaty, etc.

    That's why I can't understand why Star Trek lower deck make 2nd contact as less prestigious missions than the 1st contact.
     
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    Its not nepotism anymore then Troi being in the third chair was. They aren't there because they are third in Command, they aren't, I mean normally some in Deanna's role would not be a bridge officer at all.

    Its because they both have massive super powers that give their Captains an edge. On top of that you have side order of Nelix & Garek, Jack has major connections and contacts and such in the black markets and other shady or exotic places.

    The only reason Jack would assume command if Raffi and Seven are gone, is because Syndey is busy piloting (she outranks him).
     
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    In the proposed OP Jack is stated to be second officer. The meaning is clear.

    It's nepotism pure and simple. Jack may have connections but that doesn't make him a Starfleet officer.
     
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    Lower Decks and Prodigy can still be made, animation writers are a seperate guild/union.
     
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    He did go to Starfleet Academy, so yeah he is a Starfleet Officer.

    And yeah it was quick, but its like how universities give credits for relevant life experiences. He has medical degree and years of exploring, humanitarian aid, ship maintance, self defense, shady contacts, etc..., that is alot of life experience credits giving him a leg up at Starfleet Academy.
     
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    We don't even know if Mura or Esmar will be apart of Star Trek Legacy or not, neither were major characters. I mean I didn't even realize Esmar was non binary until long after watching the final esipode.

    They could bump them for Kestra or Alexandra (or maybe even his son or daughter) and other characters with more character development and/or deeper ties to major Star Trek Characters.