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Indiana Jones 5. It's official.

Watching it again I really don't see what the problem is. There seems to be a lot of hate for PWB, no idea why.
 
Watching it again I really don't see what the problem is. There seems to be a lot of hate for PWB, no idea why.


Just looking at the YouTube comments

“it’s a typical Kathleen Kennedy character”

“yes. Let’s have a normal speed conversation during a chase sequence. It’s like they’re not even there”

“ Indy looks like the side character in the movie. No thanks”


Most of the chase is Indy-centric, and they released that clip of a segment where Helena's centered. Not the best idea.
 
Watching it again I really don't see what the problem is. There seems to be a lot of hate for PWB, no idea why.

She kinda falls into the Brie Larsen category of women who are too tough and smart for certain people to like.

I should add that I had a hugely negative reaction to this film up until we started seeing some actual trailer footage, and now I am aching to see it. I remember crying at the end of Last Crusade (silently because I was with my friends and it was the 80s) because Ford said 'read my lips. No more Indiana Jones.' Crystal Skull was a huge disappointment when I saw it on bootlegged DVD, but now it feels like an adventure again.
 
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It’s odd, a lot of press outlets are reporting on the movie’s 6 minute standing ovation but Variety described it as “lukewarm.” Their review isn’t a lot more favourable though broadly positive it’s detail-heavy so I stopped reading halfway in). https://variety.com/2023/film/revie...l-of-destiny-review-harrison-ford-1235617471/

Standing ovations at Cannes are meaningless. Unless it's utter garbage you're going to get one.

All the reviews I've seen so far can basically by summed up with the word "Meh."
 
She kinda falls into the Brie Larsen category of women who are too tough and smart for certain people to like.

I should add that I had a hugely negative reaction to this film up until we started seeing some actual trailer footage, and now I am aching to see it. I remember crying at the end of Last Crusade (silently because I was with my friends and it was the 80s) because Ford said 'read my lips. No more Indiana Jones.' Crystal Skull was a huge disappointment when I saw it on bootlegged DVD, but now it feels like an adventure again.

Yeah - PWB is the new breed of smart, witty and independent women that many men can't handle and so they lash out impotently on the internet.

As to your second part - do you mean Ford said that in the movie because i can't recall that and i've seen it again a couple of weeks ago. Crystal Skull really was/is a disappointment, so i am completely in your boat. The trailers are wonderful but so did the ones for Phantom Menace for example. I am really anxious to see it because i want this character to leave us on a high note and not fizzle out.
 
Is PWB really any different than Marian Ravenwood was in Raiders as far as being witty, smart, tough, etc.? Marian was universally well regarded as far as I can tell.

Or in today's online world do we just know more about PWB and Brie's politics than we knew about Karen Allen's or, say, Sigourney Weaver's politics back in the day. We are so much more 'tribal' and divided these days that I wonder if that is more of the dynamic at play as opposed to 'some men just can't handle strong women'. Strong female characters such as Marian Ravenwood or Ripley did not seem to receive the reaction that PWB or Brie have received. Is it less about strong female characters and more about the political divide in our world?
 
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