That's something I have thought for a long time. Social media has become a toxic wasteland in general. Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...
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That's something I have thought for a long time. Social media has become a toxic wasteland in general. Facebook, Twitter, etc.
Cesspools all around. But also how easily information is accessed (factual or otherwise) that anyone can look up in seconds to argue their point (again, factual or otherwise) plays a large part in how viciously argumentative the human race has become over the past couple decades.
I just read this entire thread. Thanks - I'll be okay.
That's a good point. I saw a Netflix documentary last year about how social media giants like Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc., have algorithms that only send people links to things that lean more toward what are saying. While the original intention seemed to be an honest one, such a thing has been perverted to the point where people only get misinformation.
I'm certain that has a great deal to do with it.
This has happened to me too.
And usually I've found that if I stepped back and really thought objectively about what they were saying, I was indeed usually falling into an -ism and being an -ist without having realized it.
We all have unconscious biases that can blind us.
That's not what psychological research indicates.
Neither is dismissing the possibility that you do have a blind spot of which you were unaware.
Here's an example from here on the TrekBBS: My initial impulse in the thread in the SNW subforum entitled "My gripes with Asian casting and character naming in Paramount+ Trek" was to get angry and defensive of DIS and the other P+ shows, because I feel like they try very hard to be diverse and deserve credit for that. But I realized that I was identifying with the point of view of the white creators -- the unconscious bias being, "I'm white but I'm trying real hard not to be racist and deserve credit for that" -- and therefore wasn't actually listening to what the OP in that thread was saying. And once I did, I was able to recognize a bias I did not realize I'd possessed, listen to what the OP said, and realize that the OP was making a very fair point.
You can't put much faith in shrinks. They'll say anything to keep themselves in business and their pockets filled. They are about as trustworthy as snake oil salesman.
At the end of the day, I'm going to trust what I see and experience more than what some shrink from a distance who wasn't there at all says.
Well, now you're setting up a rhetorical paradigm where it's impossible to objectively research anyone's behavior. That's just not a reasonable argument.
While I agree that psychology does exist and is important to people, not everything can be broken down into something else that has nothing to do with the original subject.
Sometimes what you see in front of you IS what you see in front of you.
Example: I cannot tell you how many times I have seen drivers in parking lots go the opposite direction of arrows because they either are not paying attention, don't care, or are just reckless because I have lost count years ago. Or drivers who turn their blinkers on (on the RARE occasion they actually bother to turn it on) to go right, but go left instead, and vice versa. I have seen these things and more every single day I am on the road. This is not hyperbole... quite literally every single day. I fear for my nephew and niece who have recently received their licenses because of all the yahoos out there on the road. I have told them to be extra careful, especially at red lights because people take them every single day.
With all these observations, my conclusion is this: there are a LOT of bad drivers out on the road here. There is no bias in this. It's a simple conclusion based on nearly 30 years of driving experience in Miami and South Florida in general.
Not everything has an unconscious bias simply because you don't like the conclusion that was drawn. Just assuming that of someone is basically telling them what see and experience doesn't matter. And no one has the right to tell them their experiences didn't exist or are incorrect.
I know, it's not a fun conclusion. But I have had my share of experiences with them, as well as others in my family and close friends. I'm not saying all psychologists are bad, but there's damned few who really DO care about their patients and are not concerned with anything but filling their wallets.
I can't ignore my experiences based on some papers from some distant office.
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Especially for Psychologists on this board…
But now you're setting up a rhetorical paradigm where bad anecdotal experiences can justify prejudice and where objective data can ever overrule subjective personal experience.
Dude, I just said I have seen AND experienced bad driving every single day I am on the road. For YEARS! Obviously, that means there are bad drivers in big numbers down here.
That is not prejudice! That is stating a fact!
And by the way, will you please stop throwing that word around like it's candy? Some people don't take kindly to that.
While I admit my experiences may color my view of psychologists, my observations and conclusions about drivers here most certainly is not.
You know what?
Let's agree to disagree here, because you are not going to budge, and I'm not going to ignore my own eyes. Let's drop it and move on.
And that's fine as far as that goes. But you're not just talking about bad drivers, are you? You're setting up a rhetorical paradigm for how subjective experience is a superior way to evaluate the world than objective data.
Absolutely. I'm fine with having fun trivial debates about make believe stuff, but nothing will make me punch out of a discussion faster than personal attacks or a stranger on the internet assuming things about me that they don't have enough information to know. That's crossing a line.
Yes. I like ST09 more than I dislike it, but I quickly tire of fans who make liking or disliking a certain incarnation of Trek their big litmus test of whether or not someone is a "true" fan.
I have 100% seen this phenomenon in action.
I've been on the TrekBBS since February of 2005, and I can personally attest that that's not true. Hell, I'd wager that anyone who remembers when James Dixon posted regularly here got into it with him at least once, and that guy never gave any ground.
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