I sincerely hope aliens don't look like this. I was thinking, if aliens came to earth, and looked like this gif, and happened to have two eyes, ears, one mouth, brain on top of their head, bilateral symmetry, have skeletons, are vertebrates, etc, the most logical conclusion is that they are future humans who are time traveling. It's HIGHLY unlikely for a species to evolve just like us and only when they reach our "shape", be capable of interstellar travel, unless for some reason, DNA at its core usually always reaches this form. But that's highly unlikely. If humans do evolve and tech advances A LOT, surely they would Crack time travel and interstellar travel by then, perhaps one of those species are humans who left earth to evolve elsewhere, in the future
Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...
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I sincerely hope aliens don't look like this. I was thinking, if aliens came to earth, and looked like this gif, and happened to have two eyes, ears, one mouth, brain on top of their head, bilateral symmetry, have skeletons, are vertebrates, etc, the most logical conclusion is that they are future humans who are time traveling. It's HIGHLY unlikely for a species to evolve just like us and only when they reach our "shape", be capable of interstellar travel, unless for some reason, DNA at its core usually always reaches this form. But that's highly unlikely. If humans do evolve and tech advances A LOT, surely they would Crack time travel and interstellar travel by then, perhaps one of those species are humans who left earth to evolve elsewhere, in the future
Lol you were not here during Enterprise's heyday in the early 2000s. Every day in that board was a bloodbath of "is it canon" or "is it an alternate timeline".
I think the issue is something much simpler. In the past, people with opposing views or points could make their case and if neither person was budging, they would simply agree to disagree and move on.
These days, it's become increasingly more difficult to talk to people who actually have that ability. Everyone has to be 'right', or if you don't agree with them, insert any 'ism', 'ist', or 'phobic' that the person decides to throw at you. This is a particular problem with one large segment of the population.
Picard S3 is a prime example. Bernd Schneider wrote recently that he was looking forward to Disco S5 because it would be possible to discuss freely, unlike Picard S3 where there was a huge backlash against any criticism. Case in point - look at all the aggressive responses to Trek Ranks daring to rank it second of the modern Trek series.
Curious; I've managed to disagree with plenty of people on different topics without ever having such a label applied to me. I've also seen a number of instances of openly racist, homophobic and transphobic comments from Trek fans in recent years. I'd be rather more concerned about that segment of the population.
According to George Takei, most of the TOS cast said they would only come back for another movie if they had different uniforms to wear than the ones from TMP.
Wut?
You obviously weren't here, or on the internet, back then. Both Enterprise and Star Trek (2009) created vast schisms in the fan base (as did the Star Wars prequels) and no one was shy about their opinions, to put it nicely.
If anything it's probably more civilized these days than it was back in those frontier times.
We rarely get along. But things on this board used to be worse. A lot worse. I was there and even though I never accepted a Mod position I also felt like a dirty coffee filter straining pure unadulterated crap.
Yes, there are indeed a bunch of people who are racist, homophobic, misogynistic, etc., but in my travels, there are not as many people who fall under that category as the media or some people would have you think. Perhaps those that I'm referring to have had those kind of disagreements or arguments with enough racists/homophobics/etc. that any time they encounter someone with even a slightly different view with some issues, they go into an automatic offense mode and use those terms in a casual way. I don't know. I just don't think that excuses the behavior.
Might even simply be where I live, too. Or even where you live, if you have had mostly good encounters with disagreements. Geography can certainly be a factor.
The blue warp nacelle thread still brings shudders.
If only the blue warp nacelles had been wearing a sombrero.
truer words were never said
I've been posting here for twenty years. This is false. People got into arguments that were just as bitter back in the day. And I'm sure that in another twenty years, if TrekBBS is still around, people will claim that people didn't fight much back in 2023.
I think the issue you two are reacting to here is that large segments of society are becoming more aware of the various forms of of marginalization and oppression that are at play in society in ways that they were previously not conscious of.
While that may be true with some of those people, quite a few of my encounters and debates have been heated with ism, ist, and phobic words thrown into the fray when it was unwarranted.
Even when you agree with just about everything the other person said, if there is just one detail you aren't in agreement with, no matter how slight, they will throw in those terms without hesitation... even after you say 'let's just agree to disagree on this'.
I wasn't around for those back then, but I feel that divisiveness among people in general, online and in real life, has ramped up greatly since the 21st century began.
Probably coincides with the internet and social media becoming more prevalent.
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