Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[Noname Given]

 

[TRON JA307020]

Who would have thought we would get all this in 2023. Data back and better than ever. The counseling session scene was hilarious and classic Data. The Enterprise D kicking ass and saving the crew. Ro Laren. Shelby. Tuvok. So much good stuff it's an instant classic.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

Glad I wasn't the only one that thought of that. Also with Picard and his son fighting the Emperor Borg Queen.

"I sense the good in you, Jack!"

 

[Danja]

Who's the bald guy in the bottom pic?

 

[fireproof78]

Who's the bald guy in the bottom pic?

Unimpressed fan meme guy.

 

[Danja]

Unimpressed fan meme guy.

Thanks.

I was wondering if he was someone I should've known.

 

[STEPhon IT]

HAHAHAHA!!!

Still love the episode and appreciated the nod to Star Wars.

 

[thribs]

Now have it going through the Discovery's turbolift shaft.

Also I think the scale is a bit off with the X-Wing.

 

[mattman8907]

Deanna sensing Riker was totally a callback to Empire Strikes Back and ROTJ with Leia sensing Luke's presence.

 

[Belz...]

I think Einstein would pretty much agree with what I wrote.

I'm sure you do, but you're wrong.

 

[Elias Vaughn]

I kind of hate that they established Crusher as the new head of Starfleet Medical and presumably Geordi is still running the Fleet Museum but we don't know what anyone else from the TNG crew is doing. Did Picard finally make an honest woman out of Laris? Why isn't Deanna running the Counselor Corps? Is Data spending eternity arm wrestling those machine tentacles from season 1?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I kind of hate that they established Crusher as the new head of Starfleet Medical and presumably Geordi is still running the Fleet Museum but we don't know what anyone else from the TNG crew is doing. Did Picard finally make an honest woman out of Laris? Why isn't Deanna running the Counselor Corps? Is Data spending eternity arm wrestling those machine tentacles from season 1?

Deanna (and Wil) moved to Chicago, to see what the "dipshit" was talking about. She wanted to live in a city after all.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Who's the bald guy in the bottom pic?

Unimpressed fan meme guy.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/disappointed-muhammad-sarim-akhtar

 

[somebuddyX]

Is the Starfleet Museum something people visit? Where are all the tourists?
I like to think maybe this museum could have been the same place the E-D ended up in the future in the original concept for "All Good Things" when Picard, Data and Geordi bust the ship out of mothballs to take it back to the Devron system.

 

[Jarvisimo]

As to your last sentence, given the Week 1 mislabeling of things and funny timeline of thing within the show, I - and this is pure speculation on my part - think Season 3 originally took place in 2410 and towards the end of production they moved it back to 2401. They erased about 10 years.

• There was an early correction as to the date of the production from 2410 to 2401 in promo material.
• Seven being a Commander who gained shaws confidence enough for him to recommend her for promotion. They've only served together for months though?
• Picard having a 20 year old son who would have had to be conceived around 2381ish, or about 18 months after Nemesis.
• The Enterprise-F having a 12 year life with a random retirement reason.
• The Titan-A's commissioning (over the original Titan) being corrected.
• LaForge having grown daughters who would have to have been born pre-Nemesis.
• The estrangement between RIker and Troi has having been implied to be far longer than about the 18-ish months or so since we've last seen them in Season 1.
• Kestra is old enough to go to Starfleet Academy now? She was like 15.
• Picard retiring again from Starfleet (Academy) despite, being in the job under a year.
• Starfleet standing up a largely entirely new fleet of ships based around common parts, and using fewer of the 2370s heritage and Star Trek Online ships we saw in Season 2.
• Our 3rd new uniform in 3 seasons (yes, this is a different uniform in subtle ways than Season 2, especially how it's cut).
• Picard having some kind of relationship with Laris that is implied to have been more than just a few months.
• Soong having time to develop synth technology further and work with his father's left overs to develop the new synth that becomes Data 2.0 . Seems like a lot more than 18 months.

The entire thing works in the time line if you don't think about it too hard, but it works a lot better if you pretend it happened in 2410. In one particular way. Instead of Picard and Crusher having a relationship around 2381 while he is just is leaving the Enterprise to become Admiral to answer the Romulan supernova crisis - which presumably would consume his attention to the detriment of his personal life (as is Picard's way), if instead they formed a relationship during the early years of his "exile" in France, around 2388. He goes there, to lick his wounds, in 2386, then the supernova occurs in 2387, and Crusher comes to console him (which he probably feels terribly guilty about). That turns into a relationship there for a few years, that produces a Son, that she leaves with around 2390.

So now suddenly Picard's isolation in Season 1 isn't JUST about feeling like Starfleet lost its way, but also the feelings of shame and humiliation that someone who he's known most of his life and had a deep relationship with utterly rejected and abandoned him. That double helping makes him "waiting to die" in Season 1 far more understandable. He felt like he failed as an officer and as a man.

They didn't go with this, and again, it's just me theorizing in my part, but I think the evidence while, circumstantial, is strong.

@Christopher has been saying much the same, but this is a wonderful account of why 2410 or a date thereabouts works so well @Scionz !

 

[somebuddyX]

If they'd done 2411 it would be 250 years to Birth of the Federation.

 

[The Knappos]

I have to say. I've given this a little bit of thought and I am not entirely convinced that the whole 1hr 2 minutes of The Last Generation is better than the last 12 minutes of Vox.

Crusher at tactical does quite a fair bit of heavy lifting though.

 

[Farscape One]

If they'd done 2411 it would be 250 years to Birth of the Federation.

And 250 years IS a big milestone. Maybe they should have made it 'Federation Day' instead of 'Frontier Day'.

It would have been a nice subtle easter egg to Troi's poker game in "The Outcast" as well as make Jack's age and look work better.

 

[DEWLine]

According to Canon, there are plenty of letters in the alphabet.

And plenty of alphabets after Latin is exhausted.

 

[Timofnine]

Well, as I have never seen Star Wars, this sequence from The Last Generation was totally original to me. I have to say though that I will not be impressed if the George Lucas version of this space action scene is not as exciting as Terry and the VFX teams vision in Picard. I guess that Matalas has ruined the Star Wars ending for me now. The USS Enterprise D is quite simply better than the Millennium Falcon, and that SW ship would not have the same emotional ‘air fist pumping’ impact anyway.