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Spoilers Starship Design in Star Trek: Picard
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You're wrong. Saru was talking about the Subspace rift left by the DMA after it relocated and not the DMA itself. He relates what other starships detected when they encountered similar subspace rifts. There is no Enterprise in the 32nd Century. If there was it would have been mentioned more than once in dialogue and most likely gotten a call out like Voyager-J did when Discovery arrived at Starfleet HQ for the first time
Since Titan was a good ship, they should've renamed her USS Lollipop.
The one flying through the cube also had that, but the one from the opening of E13 with the close flyby at Jupiter was correct
The D is in that circle, so go measure it
Does anybody have any guestimates as to the scale of this specialized Borg Cube with extra large pointy antenna's?
That's beyond the standard Borg Cube dimensions of 3 km, it's large enough that the Enterprise-D can fly around inside like a light sport plane.
Sometimes you need a reset of size before you get back up in size.
It's not a big deal that the size went back down for a generation.
That is why we don't have any starship threads here at all that don't have hundreds of pages. It's also not all Kirk asked for. Or anything God would want brought closer, not that he'd have any need with it.
Try reading the subsequent posts on this. I already admitted my error and we dicussed the ambiguity in the text.
You're making an absolute statement about there not being an Enterprise, that is an error. I made an absolute statement about there was, that is also an error. We do not know for certain if there is or is not an Enterprise in the Starfleet of the 32nd century.
Saying that there is no Enterprise because we didn't see it in the Starfleet HQ sequence is absolute ridiculous as it would mean that there's only 5 or 6 ships in all of Starfleet in the 32nd century since we only saw a few in passing and only two were named (The Nog and Voyager-J)
What the hell kind of logic is that
An absolute statement based on current on screen evidence. If that gets retconned later so be it but as it stands it would appear to be true.
An absolute statement based on a predisposition that only the ships that were seen on screen exists and discounting the possibility that the writers intent could have meant both historical or contemporary ship/ships named Enterprise.
Believe me, I will in due time.
Does anybody have any guestimates as to the scale of this specialized Borg Cube with extra large pointy antenna's
The D is in that circle, so go measure it
I had a go at measuring it for another thread, it's hard to get an exact size of course but it seems like the supercube is around 25km per side.
I was looking for the post that specifically called that out, but I guess it was in another thread. That's the trouble with there being four topics in two forums where this might be being discussed.
Anywho, Brian Tatosky posted a breakdown of which VFX studios did which sequences on the PIC finale.
And in a response to a reply, he stated:
Ghost Copenhagen built [the Enterprise-D model], but I know Outpost put some extra love into it for that shot outside Jupiter.
Looked as good as it ever looked. Probably better
So, my guess is that they started with the PIC episode 1 model as a baseline (did Ghost do those shots? I wouldn't be surprised, they have a similar style to the ones of the ship flying through the cube, very shiny), and Outpost LA super-detailed the model for the paint-scraping close-up flyover shot, and that included de-symmetric-izing the shuttlebays. I can think of at least three reasons off the top of my head why the detailed-up version of the model may not have made it to the other VFX houses, but hopefully it's made it into some kind of Paramount digital archive in case we ever see a Galaxy-class ship again.
Has anyone checked on Pluto lately?
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I took my own screen shot and I did my own math, it comes out to be approximately 103.4 km per side, obviously there's a fudge factor in there, but that's what I got.
I'm not factoring any of the Radio Antenna popping out, only the sides of the primary cube hull.
If you factor in the overly large Radio Antenna's popping out, it'd be even more massive.
I'd lean more towards that since the 1701-D is 0.6 km long, and it took a fair amount of time to fly her all the way to the center.
The three clips of the ship swooping around the interior are seamless when they're cut together, so the whole trip (which wasn't entirely in a straight line, but was way less twisty than the path we saw on the viewscreen) took around 27 seconds. Looking at the speed it's going I'd estimate the Borg Cube to be closer to 200km across, or Death Star 2 sized.
That's the scenes are capable of being seamlessly cut together is cool.
I had the thought that the twisty paths were the various potential routes, with the final path chosen being the most efficient.
Someone more talented than I could have an interesting side by side with these scenes and Death Star 2 run.
I double-checked with two fresh screenshots and I'm still only getting about 25km
Please tell me where you think I might be going wrong:
Ideally I'd like a bigger cube too, 25km feels too small given the size of the interior, but I'm still only getting about 25km. Maybe the wreckage of this cube is where Starfleet gets whatever tech makes the Discovery-A's interior vastly larger than her exterior...
So they didn't keep any consistency between vfx houses?? That.. is a fail.. no one talked to each other? Sure they had Zoom..
that's not unusual.
