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Spoilers The Mandalorian Season 3

Indeed. And given the Sith obsession with eternal life I would imagine Palpatine was trying everything to avoid going to the netherworld, including moving his essence to whatever vessel he could.
Now, what's the deal with the aforementioned Nightsister spirits? I think in their example there's a better case to be made that it's not The Way Things Are Supposed To Work. Are they really the spirits of dead Nightsisters or something else? The OS calls them "spirits" but also "specters".
 
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No, it really doesn't.

Indeed. And given the Sith obsession with eternal life I would imagine Palpatine was trying everything to avoid going to the netherworld, including moving his essence to whatever vessel he could.
But that's the thing; he can't "move his essence". That's nonsense. The non-physical plain IS the cosmic force, so to move from one body to another, one must move through it. Doing so would mean one's energy is dispersed into the greater whole and any sense of individuality is annihilated with it. Holding onto said individuality requires something dark side users are simply incapable of by sheer definition; the ability to let go, acceptance, selflessness. They just can't do it, and if they did, that means they've achieved enlightenment and thus no longer an evildoer, and so won't be coming back to inhabit a rotten corpse and cause mayhem on the physical plain, ever.

This part isn't a matter of opinion, it's how Lucas said it works. Its the reason they reconsidered that whole idea of having the "spirits" Revan & Bane in the Mortis trilogy.

For the record; I'm totally on board with the idea that Palpatine would try *everything* he could to cheat death, and this mad cloning scheme being one of them. I just contend that it could not, and did not work. Palpatine met his end screaming in mortal terror. Whatever his clone thinks it was, it's no more him than Rex is Jango.
For the sake of the saga's thematic integrity, he cannot be allowed to cheat death.
 
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Its Palpatine. He's cheating, and still the Force is actively resisting his cheats. Given what we've seen so far in The Bad Batch and The Mandalorian, Palpatine is actively working on doing what the cloners say is impossible. Yet, somehow Palpatine returns. It seems to have partly worked, but not entirely. He cheated and the Force is making him pay for it.
 
Its Palpatine. He's cheating, and still the Force is actively resisting his cheats. Given what we've seen so far in The Bad Batch and The Mandalorian, Palpatine is actively working on doing what the cloners say is impossible. Yet, somehow Palpatine returns. It seems to have partly worked, but not entirely. He cheated and the Force is making him pay for it.
That's the whole thing with the Sith though; you can't "cheat" the cosmos. They can kick and scream and claw at eternity but they're all doomed to fail. It's part of what makes them evil. All they can do is drag others into their self-inflicted suffering. Every Sith Lord that ever lived thought that they'd be the one to live forever and get everything they ever wanted . . . and they were all wrong. Sidious is no different.

That thing rotting away on Exogol wasn't Sidious getting one over on the cosmic force, it was the residue of his futile quest for immortality. Emphasis on "futile".
 
For those blindly arguing in favour of following the footnotes of the sodding visual dictionary, ask yourself this; who do you think is going to have a greater impact of the greater mythical storytelling in this franchise? The guy that Lucas personally taught, and who respects his vision and the integrity of the world he created . . . or the notoriously shallow (storytelling-wise) director they hired twice because Disney imposed a deadline and they were desperate? And which of them is getting *more* involved in future storytelling, not less?
Indeed. Lucas also said Qui-Gon couldn't manifest as a full ghost. The rules can change. And seeing Palpatine try to circumvent them.is the most Palpatine thing ever since Palpatine Palpatined.
And at that time, he couldn't. There's no contradiction there.
 
Is not caring whoever and however Palpatine is or was or whatever in The Rise of Skywalker an option? Because I choose that one.
I believe so. I personally find Palaptine's return very predictable and inoffensive since it's been done before in books. I thought books were considered ok but perhaps I shouldn't any more.
 
Is not caring whoever and however Palpatine is or was or whatever in The Rise of Skywalker an option? Because I choose that one.

Assuming that's allowed. At this time.
Sure. It's relevant here only to the degree that one or more participants in the conference call of Imperial warlords, a.k.a. the Shadow Council, shown in the previous episode, may have been working on resurrecting Palpatine, presumably under Project Necromancer.
 
But that's the thing; he can't "move his essence". That's nonsense.
I mean, it's a Force power - appropriated from the (old) EU, like so much else. We might as well say Luke cannot project an image of himself to another planet.
Sure. It's relevant here only to the degree that one or more participants in the conference call of Imperial warlords, a.k.a. the Shadow Council, shown in the previous episode, may have been working on resurrecting Palpatine, presumably under Project Necromancer.
At the time of Mando S3, he's already in a body, but perhaps they're involved in trying to manufacture a better body for him? As to their chances of success, all we know is that ~24 years later he supposedly wants to jump into Rey.
 
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