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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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Falcon and Winter Soldier was by far my favorite series, although I really enjoyed all of them on their own merits.

The problem with the series is that it chickened out. It was clearly setting up Walker to be the true antagonist - representing everything wrong with America while Sam represented what was right with America. But Disney seemingly got too scared with taking this plot to its logical conclusion, and gave him a halfhearted shitty redemption arc no one wanted.
 
The problem with the series is that it chickened out. It was clearly setting up Walker to be the true antagonist - representing everything wrong with America while Sam represented what was right with America. But Disney seemingly got too scared with taking this plot to its logical conclusion, and gave him a halfhearted shitty redemption arc no one wanted.

You realize there is an editing process where writers have the ability to completely rewrite early chapters? Or that often times the end is planned before writing even starts--or the entire story can be changed before it even goes to film, right?

The problem with your thesis is that this is not old-style serial television and the entire story can be written before anything goes to film--so no, the story was not setting up Sam to be anything other than what we saw. That is what you projecting your own interpretation onto the story.

I will agree that a more nuanced ending with the terrorists was sacrificed to create a final chapter in the style of an action oriented MCU movie, but that too would have been decided on fairly early.
 
You realize there is an editing process where writers have the ability to completely rewrite early chapters? Or that often times the end is planned before writing even starts--or the entire story can be changed before it even goes to film, right?

The problem with your thesis is that this is not old-style serial television and the entire story can be written before anything goes to film--so no, the story was not setting up Sam to be anything other than what we saw. That is what you projecting your own interpretation onto the story.

I will agree that a more nuanced ending with the terrorists was sacrificed to create a final chapter in the style of an action oriented MCU movie, but that too would have been decided on fairly early.

That's all true, but it's also far from unprecedented for a film to have its ending changed in reshoots if the execs get uncomfortable with it, so it could conceivably happen for a TV miniseries as well. I don't know if it did happen here, but it's not impossible.
 
Because it's MCU and there's a lot of cynicism around regarding the Marvel formula. It's one of those things you hear and it sounds promising that they're trying to do justice to it.

None of the previous Blade films were horror movies. They were action movies that could have swapped aliens for vampires with minimal changes required.
 
I think thematically including Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Elsa Bloodstone, and Black Knight/Dane Whitman in the Blade movie makes logical sense, but at that point you're really at an ensemble film - sort of a horror-tinged Avengers.
 
I think thematically including Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Elsa Bloodstone, and Black Knight/Dane Whitman in the Blade movie makes logical sense, but at that point you're really at an ensemble film - sort of a horror-tinged Avengers.
WB will be livid if Marvel beats them to what is more or less a Justice League Dark movie.
 
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I rewatched the first movie last night, I wish the second Captain Marvel movie was her taking on the Supreme Intelligence.
 
I rewatched the first movie last night, I wish the second Captain Marvel movie was her taking on the Supreme Intelligence.
There's noting to say The Marvels isn't about taking on the Supreme Intelligence. It's entirely possible it's responsible for the entanglement and the new "Kree revolutionary" is its newest champion.
 
New Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 3 TV spot:

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I wasn't going to post it (and I'm pretty close to the point where I'll stop watching any new promos) but during the final sequence, a bunch of images appear quickly including a glimpse of Sylvester Stallone's Stakar Ogord...and one Nathan Fillion! I'm pretty sure we didn't know he was going to appear (and presumably only as a cameo again) until this TV spot.
 
But the horror thing kind of goes hand-in-hand with Blade, by definition.

True; his origin only happens thanks to a vampire, he made his comic debut in The Tomb of Dracula, and his purpose was once strictly tied to killing Dracula and his ilk. He was not random vigilante or superhero, but a character with one of the most specific calls to action of any Marvel character.
 
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