Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread
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The Falcon and the Winter Soldier stands alone with that distinction.
Not Spidey?
Yup.Ms. Marvel was the best Phase 4 project and this is the best teaser trailer they've done in a long time.
I love the trailer. And having said that, I have a nagging question. How does Kamala know who Nick Fury is? His face is not a commonly known one in the MCU, even to fans--or did I miss something? I guess there is always whatever happens in Secret Invasion which may make him known publicly, as I am going to assume that SI sets up the Thunderbolts similarly to how the comics version set up Dark Reign.
Well, for one thing Black Widow blew the lid on anything Shield wide open in Winter Soldier.
And then there is the post-Infinity War world where much of the story seems to have been revealed to the public in what I assume is part of a healing and coping effort to make sense of half the population missing.
That sounds reasonable, especially considering Fury was among the disappeared.
Not a common assessment amongst those I know. It's viewed as being one of the worst.
Personally I think Phase 4 has been a major problem and they've come close to blowing it, but Loki, Hawkeye and Moon Knight are my picks.
And in fairness, I haven't seen the last Spidey movie yet.
I couldn't get into Ms Marvel, but seeing this makes me realise I really need to give that show another shot. This movie looks like a lot of fun!!
WHAT!? No Way Home is the only good MCU Spidey film so far. Has me actually excited to what happens next with him.
It may well be, but I haven't seen it. I will have to rectify that.
It's pretty hard to name a real "winner" out of Phase 4 since it's been such a weirdly mixed bag. So far the only movie out of the bunch I've wanted to watch more than once is 'No Way Home' (though I intend to circle back to 'The Eternals' at some point), and the shows I enjoyed the most were 'Black Widow', 'Wandavision', 'Loki', 'Hawkeye' & 'She-Hulk'. Honourable mention for 'Ms Marvel' since I *really* like the beginning and end of the season. The middle though; not so much.
Just to be clear, it was *good* (if uneven at times) but most of it felt all over the place. For me the nadir was 'Multiverse of Madness' (which reminded me why I haven't re-watched Spider-Man 3 since 2007) and 'Love and Thunder' while had some great stuff in it, but the tone was constantly working against itself and I found it increasingly grating.
F&tWS sits somewhere in the middle for me since while it also had some tonal issues, it's main problem seemed to be a lack of focus. It didn't really know what it wanted to be about, or it did but didn't fully commit to it.
'Moon Knight' started strong but kinda lost me somewhere along the way and I'm not sure why, but here we are. 'What If . . . ' was just OK. The only segment that really stuck with me was the Dr Strange one, which ironically I liked better than the actual sequel movie.
'Shang Chi'; I loved everything about it (especially Morris) but I can't deny that I have to actively remind myself that it's a movie that exists. Maybe it'll stick more after the second one? We'll see. As for 'Wakanda Forever' . . . I'm not sure I've fully processed that one. I'll have to give it a second viewing at some point, but overall it was another mixed bag for me.
Just to be clear, it was *good* (if uneven at times) but most of it felt all over the place. For me the nadir was 'Multiverse of Madness' (which reminded me why I haven't re-watched Spider-Man 3 since 2007) and 'Love and Thunder' while had some great stuff in it, but the tone was constantly working against itself and I found it increasingly grating.
F&tWS sits somewhere in the middle for me since while it also had some tonal issues, it's main problem seemed to be a lack of focus. It didn't really know what it wanted to be about, or it did but didn't fully commit to it.
'Moon Knight' started strong but kinda lost me somewhere along the way and I'm not sure why, but here we are. 'What If . . . ' was just OK. The only segment that really stuck with me was the Dr Strange one, which ironically I liked better than the actual sequel movie.
'Shang Chi'; I loved everything about it (especially Morris) but I can't deny that I have to actively remind myself that it's a movie that exists. Maybe it'll stick more after the second one? We'll see. As for 'Wakanda Forever' . . . I'm not sure I've fully processed that one. I'll have to give it a second viewing at some point, but overall it was another mixed bag for me.
I’d say the same but for me it’s Captain Marvel instead. Actually, Rambeau for the most part as well now that I think about it. The way the three come together in Marvels seems fun though and has me looking forward to a project I was previously rather meh about.
I can’t hear Captain Rambeau without hearing “They drew first blood” or “You better bring a lot of body bags”.
I am one of the select few that really loved the first Captain Marvel movie. Atleast, that's how it seems. So yeah, stocked for more Carol Danvers/Brie Larson.
And I liked what I saw from Rambeau in WandaVision, definitely curious about more from her as well.
A lot of people liked it, but as is often the case, a minority of haters screamed so loudly and constantly that they drowned out other voices and created the illusion of being in the majority.
I was a little underwhelmed with both Captain Marvel and Ms Marvel but this looks like a lot of fun
The ones saying that were the ones mad that Bucky wasn't Cap instead and that "Terrorists" weren't portrayed as pure evil, thanks to the last 22 years of propaganda.
The ones I know though the prtrayal of the "terrorists" was a big part of the problem - lazily going pure evil at the end.