Except for the parts where they explain they implanted the hidden program in Picard's brain while he was assimilated.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"
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Yes, that’s exactly what a lazy, cynical reader, one looking for a fight might conclude. I rather liked that new show earlier on and hope we can build from it, but it very much did lean into the Marvel the entire sky is falling paradigm. (As did PIC S1, though that was tempered a bit by the intimacy of the ragtag crew and the central character’s old age and melancholy.)
AGAIN, this is the larger than life TNG crew, coming back for one last big celebratory hurrah. That IS different from a more modern crew (preferably less legendary and better for it) on a random ship in a random sector of space, constantly facing universe shattering arcs each season.
Heck, have you watched TNG itself lately? Part of how they became so beloved, how they earned the tension of the Federation-saving stories) is by not being over the top in every adventure.
But the point is that if DSC or LD or PRO or SNW or ACADEMY or what have you come back thirty years later for a feel good fandom adventure, sure, maybe they do blow more than the bloody doors off. Or if they simply do a movie — where the point is to make things bigger than they get on the small screen.
So yeah, I am enjoying this cataclysmic storyline because it’s one that has been earned by and in good fun for all of us right now. Let’s all enjoy the swan song we’ll never get again for the good fun it is, before we get back to more of the business as usual. I’m looking forward to the big mystery chase on the next season of DSC and I’m really looking forward to try more episodic SNW. I mean, think of that there: how silly would that show be if all ten episodes included different multiverse shattering storylines? Would that be a joke after a while? Hell, the reset button on VOY was, and that was just about dents on the hull.
That was the Borg we know.
The queen Matalas is talking about in those tweets (they are old) is the one from s2. The altered timeline.
Kathryn Janeway once destroyed a Borg cube by pointing at it and saying "Bang"
Kathryn Janeway once threw a photon grenade and killed 100 Borg drones. Then the grenade exploded.
Kathryn Janeway was bitten by a Mugato; after five days of agonizing pain the Mugato died.
There are no streets named after Kathryn Janeway because nobody crosses Kathryn Janeway and lives.
When Kathryn Janeway jumps into a pool she doesn't get wet—the water gets Kathryn Janeway.
I will agree season 1 and season 2 sucked really bad. But Matalas caught the ball and ran with it thi s season. Is it perfect? No. Is it good? yes! Matalas understands the fans and gave us what we wanted. He didn't tear the characters down to make new ones seem better and stronger like what we got in the star wars sequels.
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No it was the Prime Borg that did that, not the Jurati Borg.
Uh yes.
Reminds me of one of the print ads when Voyager was on: "It's Janeway or No Way!"
I think the reason why I am "shocked" is because it took so long to get to that point. That's why I'm more frustrated than shocked. I am frustrated because if this is the crew coming back together then I think waiting until episode 8 and 9 to have those moments feels very disingenuous. I'm not upset because of the nostalgia; I'm annoyed because it has taken full center stage and basically being told "Like it or else!"
They were created in an alternate timeline, then crossed over to the Prime Timeline in the Season Premier/Finale.
Still despicable. I guess I can do without your posts.Finally got the multi decade payoff I realized I badly needed.
Karen disconnected from the network. Beep
Yeah, celebrating a death is...difficult to take.Still despicable. I guess I can do without your posts.
Karen disconnected from the network. Beep
And they stayed out of history's way.
She's not a real person.
Rather, they were created when the two timelines haven't diverged yet. Picard & Co took the Queen from the alternate timeline back to the past to restore the timeline, which can only be done before the point of divergence. As Jurati was assimilated in that shared past that eventually became the restored Prime Timeline, her faction of Borg became part of a "close enough" Prime Timeline since 2024, not unlike how George McFly was suddenly a famous sci-fi writer instead of a nobody when Marty went back to 1985.
Using the MCU as an example again... They didn't really assemble the Avengers in Act 1 of the movie. They waited until the Battle of New York at the end to do the wrap around shot of them in costume as a team fully together. They used the TWO HOURS beforehand (as well as multiple movies) to expand on the characters, their differences, and what they have to overcome to bring them to the place of being a true team.
That's no different than what's happened here.
But the casual jealousy of such a strong and capable female character is also off-putting.
Well obviously the S2 Borg was from an alt timeline.
Stayed out of history's way until the events of the season 2 finale. That portal thing at the end of season 2 was in the prime timeline of course. That's the contradiction. She said no one had heard from the Borg in 10 years when the Jurati borg were just seen. Now peraonlly, I don't have a problem with Beverly's words because I can take it as she was just referring to the "main" Borg not the Jurati borg that requested to join the federation only a few years ago (or the same year).