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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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Macintosh said:
While the Defiant was designed as a Borg-buster, it's clearly not capable of soloing a Cube. The idea was that there'd be squadrons of them. We see the Defiant struggle to best the Lakota one-on-one, and that's just an Excelsior-class (albeit one upgraded with enhanced phasers and quantum torpedoes); it also only rarely. While very powerful for her size, the Defiant is TINY – it's doubtful indeed whether it could go toe-to-toe with a Sovereign-class or Galaxy-class. The Enterprise-D might still be the most powerful ship in the whole museum.
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Eh, I'm not so sure.
USS VOY was released into active service about a year or so after the D was half destroyed and the saucer crash landed on Veridian III.

VOY sported state of the art technology of its time, and the crew did so many adjustments and mods in the DQ (and the ship got tactical updates from SF in the last season too via the data stream too which the crew implemented)... not to mention the future technologies (though those were seemingly removed from the ship).
So, I would imagine the Voyager was probably on par with (or extremely close to) the upgraded Galaxy class ships (post Dominion War) in terms of power output, weapons and shields - just smaller.

If I was in Picard's shoes, I would have taken the Enterprise-D, Voyager and the Defiant. All 3 would be coming from roughly the same era, have comparable tactical systems, and could be run with skeleton crew and automation fairly easily.
Seven and Shaw (had he survived) could have used the Voyager... and Worf could have been placed on the Defiant.

The Defiant may be tiny but it was also stated to be overpowered for its size... it was shaking itself apart during field testing due to the SIF not being able to keep the ship together reliably past Warp 9 without shuffling extra power into the SIF system - but otherwise, seemed to have been quite powerful.

The Defiant's phaser output was doubled with a certain method (Riker's transporter clone explained it to Kira in one of the DS9 episodes)... and it stands to reason similar mods could be done on the Galaxy and Intrepid to increase phaser power output yields due to modular nature of SF ships (in case they were not already as powerful - and I suspect they were - so the VOY and ENT-D could have gained even more destructive power output for phasers at least).
 
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I was....underwhelmed by that episode. I am kind of bored with the weird changelings as a red herring for the borg thing. This all would have been more interesting if it were something, possibly anything, else or if they wanted to go borg, they should have really went for it and revealed Jack in episode 2, and then went from there. I did however, absolutely love that it only affected people under 25 :lol:
 
The D idea back. They really did a nice job on the recreation. The chairs were off a bit it looked great. This season make the last two look like an embarrassment.
 
SG-17 said:
I figured out why Janeway isn't in this season (so far). She ruthlessly deals with transporter abominations, and the softies who liked the prison of flesh that was Tuvix would reel if Janeway just airlocked every new drone.
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By the time the Enterprise actually arrives at Earth, they will find Janeway having already taken control back all by herself. No, not from Earth. She simply went to the Queen personally and bitch-slapped her to kingdom come. She then merrily calls Picard through subspace, yanks Jack into the frame by his ear and makes him apologize for making such a mess.
 
SJGardner said:
The one thing I don't understand is... what was the Queen's original plan with Picard's tailor-made receiver-transmitter genes? The one we saw executed not only hinges on a third party intentionally propagating it through individual transporter units, but also on him having naturally conceived offspring who inherits his genome in a specific way that allows him to act as a transmitter for the assimilation signal when plugged into the Collective. How would that work with what we have seen with Locutus acting as a mouthpiece for what appears to be a standard send-a-single-cube assimilation plan?
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My theory was that because Locutus was to be unique he couldn't look too nuts or else he'd look too repulsive to the people he was suppose to ease into assimilation. So they needed to create an organic interlink node to keep the implants to a minimum, which we see with Locutus compared to other drones.

Obviously the Queen wasn't planning this scheme all the way back in BoBW, but maybe after the collective was destroyed by Admiral Janeway she learned that Picard had a son and realized how the genetic modifications to Locutus would manifest in an offspring and devised a plan to restore the collective with organic assimilation since they couldn't use nanoprobes anymore.
 
valkyrie013 said:
So.. Enterprise D equiped with transphasic torpedoes and ablative armour?
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That would have been something... but in this instance, no one even mentioned that the Ent-D systems were modernized internally... so that the ship would more or less be on par with modern 25th century ships (minus being networked to the fleet)... so it stands to reason to think the ship wasn't upgraded, just restored.

Also, the Borg already adapted to the ablative armour in 'Endgame'... though it could have provided maybe somewhat better protection vs the ENT-D shields... and the transphasic torpedoes... well, both them and the armour were part of future technologies which were technically in violation of the TPD... but by this time frame, I don't see why SF couldn't use them since they would have been well past the point when those technologies were invented and the fact that the timeline from which they originated either no longer existed, or it was irrelevant because the tech was already used in Endgame and changed history).
 
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fireproof78 said:
Out of curiosity, why? He connects with Picard, makes peace with his nature, and saves them all. Boom. Heroic story.
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Multiple reasons really.

It's the end of ST: Picard, so being the end of Picard wouldn't be too surprising.
There's the theme of paying for consequences. Shaw paid with his life.
There's Picard promising to not give up on Jack at all costs, including his life.
There's Picard feeling guilty for being Locutus, both across Starfleet and but also with its effect on Jack.

I don't know, it just feels fitting.

But I don't think it'll happen because they want a fun reunion, which trumps everything else. Others will die, sometimes senselessly, sometimes humorously, or pointlessly. But I doubt they'll go there.
 
I wonder what Seven will have up her sleeve next week. I'm sure she'll play a role in stopping the assimilated Starfleet.
 
Yistaan said:
Dahj, Cristobal Rios, Agnes Jurati arguably, and likely Liam Shaw have entered the chat.
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A careful reader would note that I wrote "all his characterization," very specifically referring to Jack's.

But not everyone is a careful reader.
 
SG-17 said:
My theory was that because Locutus was to be unique he couldn't look too nuts or else he'd look too repulsive to the people he was suppose to ease into assimilation. So they needed to create an organic interlink node to keep the implants to a minimum, which we see with Locutus compared to other drones.

Obviously the Queen wasn't planning this scheme all the way back in BoBW, but maybe after the collective was destroyed by Admiral Janeway she learned that Picard had a son and realized how the genetic modifications to Locutus would manifest in an offspring and devised a plan to restore the collective with organic assimilation since they couldn't use nanoprobes anymore.
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Agreed, but also, the Borg aren't beneath planning and waiting long term. So, this could have been done to Picard intentionally in case everything else failed... a Borg equivalent of a 'long shot'
 
Commander K said:
And clearly Geordi took out a set of lightbulbs, bridge looked a little darker than it used to
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I actually felt like the Enterprise's bridge was over-lit from the way I remember it being in TNG.

Maybe it was the crappy CRT TVs that I was watching from, but I remember the TNG bridge having noticeable recess lighting above the back computer consoles and above the side walls. The way it looks here the entire bridge seems very brightly lit and almost meant as a contrast to the overly dark bridges of 25th century Starfleet.

Also, I'm guessing the dimensions of this set was much smaller than the original TNG set. I noticed that it felt like they were limited in some of the angles they could shoot from compared to the shots they usually used back in TNG, and the camera angles shot from the front looking towards the back of the bridge seemed weird. I think they inserted the line about it feeling "smaller" to acknowledge some of the differences.

As far as why Geordi wouldn't restore it to the Generations bridge, if it's meant as a museum piece, it seems that usually historical artifacts are restored to their most significant form. So I can understand it being restored to the circa season 3/4 Enterprise-D bridge, since that's when it's most historically significant.
 
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