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Spoilers Picard Season 3 - Preview Photos/Videos Thread

Rewatching things are obviously different, much like relistening to music. Or redoing anything, really. Sometimes you learn a little more about the thing, especially if there's a decent gap between intakes.
I guess to me there's not. If I'm invested, following along with the characters, and connecting with them emotionally, then I'm in. I still feel chills in films, I still tear up at certain scenes, I still laugh in other scenes. That's why I do stories.
 
I don't understand why people want to be spoilered. Is the story that uninteresting to you?

Unlike others, I'm still excited about whatever's going to happen.

There's been scientific studies proving that people enjoy stories more when they're spoiled. Essentially if we know the final outcome of the story we can focus more on the "how" than the "what." We notice the foreshadowing, feel tension as we see people moving towards their ultimate fates, etc.

Honestly, none of this is surprising, because throughout human history most stories we were told were spoiled. Part of this was there were less stories, and those which were told (for example, as part of legend or mythology) were retold over and over. But even where this wasn't the case, you often had narrators openly tell you the fates of characters at the beginning of the story (like Romeo & Juliet, for example). Indeed, the entire dramatic form of the tragedy is based upon knowing that something awful is going to happen to the main character, and then seeing it unfold. There is no tension in the outcome, the tension is just how we get there.

I think the idea that story interest is on the basis of not knowing what will happen to the characters is relatively recent - probably dating to the rise of magazine serials in the 19th century, along with mystery writing. But the deeper history in storytelling is the journey to an already understood destination.
 
There's been scientific studies proving that people enjoy stories more when they're spoiled. Essentially if we know the final outcome of the story we can focus more on the "how" than the "what." We notice the foreshadowing, feel tension as we see people moving towards their ultimate fates, etc.

Honestly, none of this is surprising, because throughout human history most stories we were told were spoiled. Part of this was there were less stories, and those which were told (for example, as part of legend or mythology) were retold over and over. But even where this wasn't the case, you often had narrators openly tell you the fates of characters at the beginning of the story (like Romeo & Juliet, for example). Indeed, the entire dramatic form of the tragedy is based upon knowing that something awful is going to happen to the main character, and then seeing it unfold. There is no tension in the outcome, the tension is just how we get there.

I think the idea that story interest is on the basis of not knowing what will happen to the characters is relatively recent - probably dating to the rise of magazine serials in the 19th century, along with mystery writing. But the deeper history in storytelling is the journey to an already understood destination.
Yeah, I drafted a post along these lines too, but gave up on it, as it the words weren't quite working for me.

What I will say is, I've seen the leaked pics for episode 9, and they haven't dissuaded me from watching/spoiled the season. If anything, it's increased my interest whilst also sating my impatience. Bit of a win-win really.

I know not everyone feels the same, but spoilers in the way those pics were done, are exactly the types of spoilers that work for me. Actual full plot details tend to annoy me, but teasers like that, without context. Great.

But like others say, it's best if you've had the chance to seek them out, rather than being told, or stumbling accidentally on them. I think that's great thing about spoiler tag boxes.
 
I don't understand why people want to be spoilered. Is the story that uninteresting to you?

Essentially if we know the final outcome of the story we can focus more on the "how" than the "what.

I'm definitely in this boat. That is, reading the plot doesn't give me any indication of whether something is good or enjoyable. For example, have you ever read the Wikipedia summary of a show, book or movie you've liked and thought something like "Well, yeah, I guess that's what happens but ... they left out all the good parts!"

I dunno, that's sort of how I see it. Great ideas can be badly executed and boring, cliche or straight up bad ideas can be really well done and/or delightful. Star Trek tends to do both often!
 
There's been scientific studies proving that people enjoy stories more when they're spoiled. Essentially if we know the final outcome of the story we can focus more on the "how" than the "what." We notice the foreshadowing, feel tension as we see people moving towards their ultimate fates, etc.

Honestly, none of this is surprising, because throughout human history most stories we were told were spoiled. Part of this was there were less stories, and those which were told (for example, as part of legend or mythology) were retold over and over. But even where this wasn't the case, you often had narrators openly tell you the fates of characters at the beginning of the story (like Romeo & Juliet, for example). Indeed, the entire dramatic form of the tragedy is based upon knowing that something awful is going to happen to the main character, and then seeing it unfold. There is no tension in the outcome, the tension is just how we get there.

I think the idea that story interest is on the basis of not knowing what will happen to the characters is relatively recent - probably dating to the rise of magazine serials in the 19th century, along with mystery writing. But the deeper history in storytelling is the journey to an already understood destination.
This is a pretty interesting post. Thanks. Just reminds me there are always different frameworks for telling stories, even if the motivations/situations of characters are as old as the sun.

I think it was Stephen King who said he never wants to know the end of his stories before he starts them, and mentioned how John Updike always begins a novel by writing the final line and how this makes King sad.
 
For example, have you ever read the Wikipedia summary of a show, book or movie you've liked and thought something like "Well, yeah, I guess that's what happens but ... they left out all the good parts!"
Once in a while.

I also will read a Wikipedia summary after I've watched a movie if I think I missed something. Or while I'm watching sometimes if I'm really confused, but carefully. lol
 
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This is a pretty interesting post. Thanks. Just reminds me there are always different frameworks for telling stories, even if the motivations/situations of characters are as old as the sun.

I think it was Stephen King who said he never wants to know the end of his stories before he starts them, and mentioned how John Updike always begins a novel by writing the final line and how this makes King sad.
One of my favorite quotes about writing comes from E.B. White and he talks about how people will say "Well it's all been written. Of course it's all been written. Write anyways." And that's the motivation I take in writing and reading. Even if I think I know this story, I don't know this author and the experience will always be different.
 
Sometimes I don’t have time or energy to watch, but I’m mentally engaged enough to want to know what is happening and going on next, so spoilers fit that bill lol
 
Once in a while.

I also will read a Wikipedia summary after I've watched a movie if I think I missed something. Or while I'm watching sometimes if I'm really confused, but carefully. lol
I like to read Memory-Alpha episode articles after watching an already aired episode of a Trek for trivia and production info.
 
One of my favorite quotes about writing comes from E.B. White and he talks about how people will say "Well it's all been written. Of course it's all been written. Write anyways." And that's the motivation I take in writing and reading. Even if I think I know this story, I don't know this author and the experience will always be different.
The Elements of Style is useful.

Charlotte's Web is one of the greatest books.
 
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