Did they change the name again?
Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...
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Do try to keep up.
Well informed, then.
I don’t know. The shape and size is still close enough that I could buy it’s most of the same skeleton, spaceframe and components/structures under the skin, just with enough “peripherals” changes — surface plates and mounted components, internal interface systems and decor — to visibly change the ship’s look and performance, while still being less of a use of resources than constructing an entirely new ship would be. (It’s harder to buy when changing the Titan from Luna- to Constitution III-class, where it looks like half the skeleton itself must have been changed and the rest rearranged, but then I’m no Starfleet engineer.)
Is Robin Curtis a plausible refit of Kirsty Alley, though?
Yeah, but that’s an actor recast; it’s understood not to be a change “in-universe”. Whereas the Enterprise refit is called out in dialogue as a change that “really happened”, so they’re not pretending that it always looked that way.
(And if back in high school I wrote a short piece of fanfiction about how there was a terrible accident on board the Enterprise on the way home from the Mutara sector, and McCoy had to pretty much rebuild Saavik’s face resulting in a completely new look, we can just ignore that now in tolerant silence, I hope.)
No. They are clearly two different people who happen to have the same name and are female Vulcans. Other than that, there isn’t much similarity between the portrayal of Alley’s Saavik and Curtis’s Saavik.
So, "Saavik" on Vulcan is like Mary in the USA (who also happens to be a Lt. in Starfleet...hanging out on the Genesis Mission...<Small Universe Syndrome.>
That was clearly not the intent, but it might as well have been.
The refit in TMP explains why the Enterprise looks different but it doesn’t explain why the rest of the Federation looks completely different than in TOS.
The refit is am OK explanation. It is not a perfect one. The uniforms, design language, equipment changes, and the like are not explained. Spicks ceremony not well explained.
It is just close enough.
It is just close enough.
Aside from architecture being different in San Francisco than on Starbase 11–rather like how Paris today looks rather different from, I don’t know, Caumsett State Park today—how so? Starfleet changed its uniforms across the board, as they are wont to do every thirty minutes or so, and space station architecture in Trek was largely established in TMP. K-7 is rounder like the TOS Enterprise is, but for all we know it got “angularfied” later in much the same way that the Enterprise did; its hub-and-surrounding-disks structure certainly matches the basic shape of most of the stations we see in the movies and later series.
“They love to change things…”. Done!
Just a few upgrades between each of the pilots and the series, but mostly the same ship.
Well, when you approach a planet you obviously switch out your engine dome lightsThe Enterprise has well know transformational abilities.
And retract the bridge.Well, when you approach a planet you obviously switch out your engine dome lights
There is no such thing as CBS+ or CBSAA+. CBS All-Access changed its name to Paramount+. That is all.
The Enterprise has well know transformational abilities.
Amazing how people demand that spin-offs of a television series produced almost sixty years, ten U.S. presidents, and twelve British prime ministers ago display a level of visual continuity that that almost-old-enough-to-collect-Social-Security television series did not itself display.
So sometimes the audience is just supposed to suspend disbelief and accept that things look different to them but not in-universe.
Hm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
I don't think that's quite a Mandela effect but maybe rose tinted glasses of some kind in remembering just how well things stuck together? Or that these changes did not warrant any commentary. Which is closer to what I think because it's a dramatic presentation. Or did people think there was a transporter inside the turbolift as in "The Menagerie" when Spock is rolling Pike off screen and the shot moves to Kirk watching Pike walking away with Vina on the viewscreen. Quite the fast movements by Spock!
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