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Spoilers The Mandalorian Season 3
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Eh, I'm not so convinced. For one thing Sabine already has a lightsaber to look after, and a quest to see it returned to it's owner. For another the implication of the Rebels finale was that she's seemingly spent most of the last decade as protector of Lothal, not back with her people, whereas Bo Katan has been working ceaselessly for going on thirty years at this point to try and unite and lead her people (by hook or by crook.)
And no; they're not going to spend all season getting non-Clone Wars/Rebels fans on board with who Bo Katan is, just to buy time for *another* Mandalorian they've never heard of to be introduced and nick her job. That just doesnt' make any sense at all.
My personal favourite is when people gripe about how slow the start of a season is compared the the previous season's finale. It's like they've never read a novel, or even heard of things like "pacing" and "dramatic structure."
For what it's worth, even on TCW it only happened off-screen between episodes. This dialogue, and the fact that Dooku left Vizla with a new facial scar is all we really know about it. Bo may not have even been there in person when it went down.
It's not a loophole when that's literally how that works; you defeat the person with the darksaber and then it's yours. If someone then defeats you, it's theirs. Rinse & repeat! Sabine's claim was even shakier because she just took it from Maul's treasure haul; but then she defeated Gar Saxon on single combat for it, and everything is suddenly kosher.
Remember it's not some magical talisman; it's about the story. And the story is that the wielder of the Darksaber was bested in the mines of Mandalore (basically holy ground) and Bo Katan came to his rescue, using the saber to slay their foe. Just wait until the part about the living Mythosaur gets added into the tale. They'll be making her out to be the living reincarnation of Mandalore the Great!
Troglodyte.
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Maybe it was silly but plenty of people were talking about this when those events happened on Mandalore. I'm actually surprised it took this long to bring it up in the series. I would have figured something so monumental would have been brought up before.
Trigger warning for people who liked the last episode.......
So this is episode 6 out of 8 and we are still doing filler stuff? The season is really over after 2 more episodes?
Remember how almost every episode of season 2 was like a shot, bam! Bo Katan, bam! Ahsoka, bam! Boba Fett, bam! Luke Skywalker. This season is a damp squib. What's really happening here? It's become the Bo Katan show. Din is just like "sure, yeah, yes, I agree, OK lets go this way" etc. Where has his character gone? Remember when Din got the darksaber and the look of Bo Katan's face? That's the fight that should have been. Din Vs. Bo Katan. That''s what this season should have been. Not a buddy buddy, oh you saved me so the saber is yours now. That robs a massive amount of tension from this series. Instead, Bo Katan fights somebody that nobody cares about. What the heck are they doing?!
So this is episode 6 out of 8 and we are still doing filler stuff? The season is really over after 2 more episodes?
Remember how almost every episode of season 2 was like a shot, bam! Bo Katan, bam! Ahsoka, bam! Boba Fett, bam! Luke Skywalker. This season is a damp squib. What's really happening here? It's become the Bo Katan show. Din is just like "sure, yeah, yes, I agree, OK lets go this way" etc. Where has his character gone? Remember when Din got the darksaber and the look of Bo Katan's face? That's the fight that should have been. Din Vs. Bo Katan. That''s what this season should have been. Not a buddy buddy, oh you saved me so the saber is yours now. That robs a massive amount of tension from this series. Instead, Bo Katan fights somebody that nobody cares about. What the heck are they doing?!
Pedro Pascal is so busy they'll probably have to CGI it on to an actor playing him.
Honestly, Bo Katan fighting Axe was more interesting to me than fighting Din. Din is on a different path and I like that he is.
See I think this is the key. I think you misconstrued what I was suggesting. I don't actually think they're going to do a 180 and make Sabine the new boss, I just think she's going to be more involved in the story next season. And I didn't really think this myself until seeing Zebaroni. And, yes, I do think she ends up with the saber, but simply because she's the most proficient with it. Plus, there's a very easy throw-in line of "Me and Ahsoka train with vibroblades for an hour every morning before breakfast."
Because, in the long run, I don't think the saber itself really matters. It's just a material object with a lineage that's so convoluted at this point. The custom is just there for the sake of the custom, and we've already seen Armorer give an inch here. So there's definitely a thematic through-line.
And like you say, it's the story that really matters; and that as a tangible object connected to said story, the Mythosaur itself is just so much more impactful.
So what I'm really saying that Bo realizes she doesn't actually need the sword to lead her people (because leading a raid to defeat the beast is a greater unifying event), and so she gives it back to the one person who has any kind of actual "legal" (for lack of better) claim of ownership to it. Not to mention, it's a pretty safe assumption that as Ahsoka continues into later seasons, they'll start combating more force-ish users. So it makes sense for her to have a weapon with which she can properly defend herself.
This is a cheap, unimaginative stunt that would have killed the show right then and there -- the byproduct of an entire generation of TV writers who believed inter-character conflict for the sake of inter-character conflict was always best. Sometimes it's okay to let buds be buds.
And really, I think it's nice to have a genuine friendship between a (presumably -- don't actually know about Din) heterosexual pair that doesn't have romantic overtones. That's not to say I didn't know that very suggestive way they were framed with Grogs hopping along between them in several scenes, but I just chalk that up to BDH being cheeky.
Quite well put in my opinion. A conflict between Bo Katan and Din would be just low hanging fruit and boring. These characters are both growing and changing and finding value in a shared journey rather than constantly at odds with one another. Them fighting would undo a lot of that friendship work built over the past season and a half, specially considering how dismissive Bo and Axe were of the Children of the Watch initially, and how Din managed to demonstrate that he does have some capability.
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This isn't the greatest episode of The Mandalorian in the world, no, this is just a tribute!
Seriously! Jack Black and Christopher Lloyd in the same episode? Oh wow, it was almost too much to handle. This was such a fun episode for me from start to finish. Everything about it was well done, IMO. Bryce Dallas Howard seems to have a steady hand at directing, just like her father.
Also, Bo Kataan once again wields the Dark Saber, which I'm glad because she's quickly become a favorite character.
Seriously! Jack Black and Christopher Lloyd in the same episode? Oh wow, it was almost too much to handle. This was such a fun episode for me from start to finish. Everything about it was well done, IMO. Bryce Dallas Howard seems to have a steady hand at directing, just like her father.
Also, Bo Kataan once again wields the Dark Saber, which I'm glad because she's quickly become a favorite character.
I'll admit there was something that irked me about the episode, but if we're complaining how detours that Din takes while exploring the galaxy for us are filler, then we'd not stop ranting. Not only the majority of the episodes have been detours, the very main plot we're currently on was a result of sending Din on two wild bantha chases for the entirety of the first 2.5 seasons, and only now he gets rid of the dark sabre he had no desire to posses.
I reckon we won't be seeing Jack Black and Lizzo again in any significant capacity (aside from a promised good word to the New Republic), but we bookended how former separatists are doing post-empire, droids included, and we were provided a point of view from to-be-decommissioned droids (I suppose part of the irksome for me was that the malfunctioning droids weren't protesting exploitation, but that's just me expecting droids to act like R2, Chopper or L3). Those are part of greater threads that always could use following, so stumbling upon those is a good use of the time.
I could say that out of other filler episodes, this one did less, but that would also be a lie. Aside from the aforementioned, it cleverly mocked direct democracy, satirised a WALL-E society. It also presented airy royalty that's much polar opposite of the one we had on Naboo at the beginning, which it seems I had wanted to see, and all that makes Grogu happy makes me happy, especially when he cheats on behalf of the queen. Din frustrating the poor B1 battle droid in charge by kicking the B2s to locate the faulty one was joy to see too.
What I didn't like is that the thing was patched up and happening while the Mandalorians were right there. The patchy parts seemed quickly put together. Din's approach to the Ugnaughts was a tad bit offensive, and worked for a superficial portrayal of them – I know one Ugnaught, so I'm a friend of all of you, and I talk like him as you will also all do, and in the short time I spent with him I learned the nook and crannies of your culture. The droid resolution was also done to get the thing out of the way, but it worked better.
The Quarren captain was the best part of the episode for me.
ETA: Apparently, the Amnesty Program has extremes when it comes to privilege. One gets tiresome book-keepping job on Coruscant, forbidden from even leaving the general area they are in, without any protection from getting their brain fried with a mind flayer by another ex-imperial. Another marries a queen and runs an utopian society with her. Nice contrast there.
I reckon we won't be seeing Jack Black and Lizzo again in any significant capacity (aside from a promised good word to the New Republic), but we bookended how former separatists are doing post-empire, droids included, and we were provided a point of view from to-be-decommissioned droids (I suppose part of the irksome for me was that the malfunctioning droids weren't protesting exploitation, but that's just me expecting droids to act like R2, Chopper or L3). Those are part of greater threads that always could use following, so stumbling upon those is a good use of the time.
I could say that out of other filler episodes, this one did less, but that would also be a lie. Aside from the aforementioned, it cleverly mocked direct democracy, satirised a WALL-E society. It also presented airy royalty that's much polar opposite of the one we had on Naboo at the beginning, which it seems I had wanted to see, and all that makes Grogu happy makes me happy, especially when he cheats on behalf of the queen. Din frustrating the poor B1 battle droid in charge by kicking the B2s to locate the faulty one was joy to see too.
What I didn't like is that the thing was patched up and happening while the Mandalorians were right there. The patchy parts seemed quickly put together. Din's approach to the Ugnaughts was a tad bit offensive, and worked for a superficial portrayal of them – I know one Ugnaught, so I'm a friend of all of you, and I talk like him as you will also all do, and in the short time I spent with him I learned the nook and crannies of your culture. The droid resolution was also done to get the thing out of the way, but it worked better.
The Quarren captain was the best part of the episode for me.
ETA: Apparently, the Amnesty Program has extremes when it comes to privilege. One gets tiresome book-keepping job on Coruscant, forbidden from even leaving the general area they are in, without any protection from getting their brain fried with a mind flayer by another ex-imperial. Another marries a queen and runs an utopian society with her. Nice contrast there.
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Two Mandalorians walk into a droid bar...
This episode was so much damn fun. Simple as that. Jack Black and Lizzo living their best lives and Christopher Lloyd just chewing the scenery. I cannot ask for more.
But then both this show and The Bad Batch (unrelatedly, so has Picard) have been borrowing from Blade Runner left and right, so I've been primed for it.
This episode was so much damn fun. Simple as that. Jack Black and Lizzo living their best lives and Christopher Lloyd just chewing the scenery. I cannot ask for more.
I noticed that right away. I broke out into a great big grin at that moment.
But then both this show and The Bad Batch (unrelatedly, so has Picard) have been borrowing from Blade Runner left and right, so I've been primed for it.
Yes, of course. His mannerisms during his confession were spot on!
That would be quite fitting IMO in relation to Din's character growth/evolution.
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While I enjoyed the "goofiness" and especially the buddy-cop part of episode
+ seeing so many Star Wars races and droid versions in a single episode and especially the robot bar was cool
Unfortunately some quite interesting issues didn't get the room to be properly addressed (the robots just wanting to live, being "ok" to serve the "fleshy things" for a bit of becuase of thier longer lifetime and having been given a second chance)
However I'm irked too that the bigger/more important story (Din, Bo and the Mandalorian "unification" quest) basically was the episode bookends only.
this Mandalorian buddy-cop Star Wars character/droid showoff part could easily have been a fun stand alone episode for like for an summer event / holiday special of some kind.
They really should do such stand alones IMO.
Yup, very much agree.
No issues with any of the stuff below, just made me laugh A LOT.
- Din's loophole for the dark saber transfer
(which I expected to happen back when todays flashback actually happened or imediately after), while still being "helmet on"-this is the way (for now).
- Din kicking the droids to find the affected ones
- Grogu helping cheat at the game
I guess it's a good thing we didn't see Super Battle Droids run that fast and be that nimble in Episodes II and III. A lot more Jedi would have been killed. 
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I laughed at the poor B1 battle droid shouting "Sir... sir!" to Din as he kicked the wallops out of that B2 droid.I guess it's a good thing we didn't see Super Battle Droids run that fast and be that nimble in Episodes II and III. A lot more Jedi would have been killed.
It was an interesting and off-the-wall exploration of droid culture, down to them having bars where they hang out, and the bartender explaining that working for free was a small price to pay for being born immortal.
That reminded me of my favorite story in I, Robot, the one where they have to find the one robot in a batch that was made with a modified First Law that said it actually could, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
Oh, and I totally forgot, earlier; Dr. Ball!
I really hope the one they used on Leia didn't have those lasers.
Din's explanation was a bit, "I have spent a semester abroad, I am a citizen of the world," but the nuts and bolts of what he did seemed like basic travel-guide stuff. Is haggling rude here, or is not-haggling rude? Does smiling make me look friendly or stupid? Is the price on the menu accurate, or is there a secret real price that's 20% higher?
I did like how incongrous their voices were when we're use to very affected performances by characters like Akbar and Raddus. I wonder if the idea was that the Admirals were actually speaking english, and in this scene they were speaking... underwater-people-talk... and it was being translated by the TV.
"He's a ball. He's capable of bouncing. And occasionally rolling."*
*with all due respect to Red vs. Blue but I can't find the clip.
Egh.. Dark sabre rules are like Harry Potter wands. If I beat who beat you .. I win.
So no biggie.
Still irks me that the gauntlet fighters wings dont spin.. Boo
So no biggie.
Still irks me that the gauntlet fighters wings dont spin.. Boo
So we have exhausted all the scenes in the trailers. We are entering entirely unknown territory.
I fully expect some sort of redition of "I want to take you to a Droid Bar" in the near future.
But I get the feeling that just a silly episode is the calm before the storm.
I fully expect some sort of redition of "I want to take you to a Droid Bar" in the near future.
But I get the feeling that just a silly episode is the calm before the storm.
We still have to see Boba Fett show up. He was in a Season 3 trailer that was screened but not intended to be disseminated to the wider public, yet video footage leaked out from the event.
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