At least as likely is that they're a bunch of people whose steady job has just ended, and they'd quite like to utilise its momentum to get another one.
Paramount apparently still doesn't get it...
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At least as likely is that they're a bunch of people whose steady job has just ended, and they'd quite like to utilise its momentum to get another one.
@donners22 - I think that was due to the fact that is was available within a day of when it was screen in USA (and not on rather late at night). I know from some of my trek friends in Sydney and Melbourne there was a but of interest at the time. I have friends who brought the costumes also from disco.
My thoughts on the new show is to wait and see, as at the moment - there is very little detail besides some about the creators and time period. I think this has been planned for a while, as they would have been thinking about this before season 3 of Picard was screened. Plus, we don't know what else is coming (if anything else will be announced in the future)
My thoughts on the new show is to wait and see, as at the moment - there is very little detail besides some about the creators and time period. I think this has been planned for a while, as they would have been thinking about this before season 3 of Picard was screened. Plus, we don't know what else is coming (if anything else will be announced in the future)
I don’t t think it’s an “actual thing.” I think it’s exactly what the article says it is. Which, BTW, is pretty much how SNW came to be during DSC S1. So, it’s irresponsible to say it’s a show because there’s no official decision or announcement, but also certainly not beyond possibly given the history of the franchise on P+.
It'll definitely happen as long as enough people believe it will, and enough of those people are Paramount executives.
Fans want?
As a fan, I want an animated (cgi) Romulan war series with the original Enterprise Cast ..
It has been said, so where is it? is it done yet??
What fans want, is something they do consider, because its the fans that watch the shows, so its not ignored, but it is also not gospel, they have there plans, if its successful, they might have ideas on what to branch off. But if its not making money, or the money is tight, then.. tough cookies..
As a fan, I want an animated (cgi) Romulan war series with the original Enterprise Cast ..
It has been said, so where is it? is it done yet??
What fans want, is something they do consider, because its the fans that watch the shows, so its not ignored, but it is also not gospel, they have there plans, if its successful, they might have ideas on what to branch off. But if its not making money, or the money is tight, then.. tough cookies..
TNG was about as mainstream as Star Trek ever got here in the UK.
I'm still amazed at how many people I've come across over the years (e.g. through work) who use phrases in jest like 'resistance is futile', 'make it so' etc. It's looked back on very fondly/nostalgically by a lot of people, not just diehard fans. At the time it really reignited TV sci-fi interest here (as it did in the US) - appearing as the main cover article on publications like Radio Times was a big deal in the very early 90s.
I think that if CBS/Paramount was seriously considering making a sequel to PIC, that they wouldn’t have already destroyed the Stargazer/Titan sets.
I seriously doubt that most ‘fans’ really wanted a Starfleet Academy series, especially one taking place in the 32nd century. At least on this BBS, I have never seen the majority of the posters here clamoring for something like that. Ditto a Section 31 series. Or a series about Khan in 1992. Yet these were the ideas CBS advertised, and now after they’ve started to trim down their budget, we’re getting one of those ideas as reality. So I don’t really see CBS pandering to what the ‘fans’ want all that much.
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Not sure how I feel about that, since Disco is the show I couldn't get into... but still willing to keep an open mind.
Can't say I haven't seen it happen... but that was in the Berman era.
I'll give you the first two and sometimes the third... but I don't see it as poorly designed or unfunny. Some Treks aren't my cup of tea... maybe that applies to you here.
Probably because there's shades of Pixar in it... gorgeous animation, and it finds a way to appeal to adult Trekkies while still being kid friendly.
In retrospect, it does seem funny that they played it that way, but you're right. Adding a talking dog to "Happy Days", for instance (at least it wasn't a shark). Or replacing the Human Torch in "Fantastic Four" with, as you said, a robot. I guess since I hadn't seen either in its original form, it didn't bother me.
Even though one is geared towards adults, and the other is geared towards kids, I find Prodigy to be more mature. Strange as that sounds. Or at least more genuine.
Lower Decks feels like it was written by an archetypical Berman Fan who'd post on TrekBBS and who I'd have probably disagreed with most of the time for over 20 years.
Seconded.
LD is indeed cleverly done, arguably not for kids (unsupervised or at all?) for some of the fantasy-driven violence, and whose references aren't as jarring as one might expect. Most complement the story, not detract for the sake of "HEY, WE'RE REFERENCING THIS!" There's a fine line, and the writing does impress. Season 3's blu-ray release is coming up very shortly too, woohoo!
PROD isn't my thing, but the clips I saw definitely look (a) expensive to produce with rendering farm costs, (b) do hold their own and the Borg clips are impressive standouts, and (c) definitely don't talk down to the audience.
And if (b) was done, it'd be far worse if the actor turned to the camera and actively spouted "don't drink and drive" or whatever the aftersk00l special topic of the week was. Note that TNG's go-to example of "Symbiosis" comes close to the "gawk at camera and recite at the audience and for more info go to the local library", but doesn't get to that level, and I still have a soft spot for it for other reasons. For a go-to example of how not to write a script unless you want to drive away viewers, "Orphan 55" comes to mind as "Doctor Who" has covered the identical ideas before in the show's 60-year history, and in far better ways (not that it would take much). But before I digress...
If anything, LD and PROD are both hinging on the 24th century rather than being an untested new crew set a century of few later.
I'll second that as well.
LD is definitely fun and surprised me in a good way a number of times (not citing examples due to possible spoilers), but definitely feels like "love letter to the fans of both Berman-era Trek and Futurama" (despite being made by the people who made "Rick and Morty", which I've never seen but am wanting to get to.) The show still finds new things to flesh out, which is part of the fun, and I love all the leads as they all bring in something that hits the spot. Seasons 2 and 3 definitely upped the ante as well.
PROD definitely has a less cavalier and jocular attitude, which is refreshing in its own right -- those Borg clips, which I remember the most of all I have seen so far, speak volumes in that regard. They're impressively well done.
For me anyway, both sell an agreeable tone.
Back in the day, after sitting through enough "Superfriends" as a young kid on initial airing to cheer on the Legion of Doom and hoping they'd win given how patronizing the Justice League was with the narrating and telling the kids what they were doing (ugh), tell-vs-show with the most gaudy of exposition... they weren't doing it because of a low animation budget, even TAS didn't approach that horrid level of exposition...
It's hit or miss, that's for sure.
'tis understandable.
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How about The Brady Kids having two Panda bears, Ping and Pong, that "spoke" mock Chinese?
Personally I think Lower Decks is great, not close to the same class as that Saturday morning stuff we grew up with.
And to me Lower Decks feels more like Futurama which I ALSO LOVE. Prodigy is my least favorite of the recent Treks. But I still like it and watch it. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about an episode after I've watched it though.
And I'm happy for you.
For me it's the first and only Trek show I've stopped watching, but other fans have issues with different shows. Hey we're all individuals (*all repeat in unison*) and I wouldn't deny other folks that enjoyment.
No...not hugging!
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