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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x07 - "Dominion"

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Other than the last few of your posts defending your point of view, you've been completely redundant on your distaste for this particular show.
That's not having a conversation, that's simply an attempt to tear down the show.

It has become tiresome.

I think you meant to say it "was" tiresome. Nobody is perfect.
 
Can't there be voices that differ from the common consensus?
Of course there can. There’s a considerable variety of opinions around here—it’s hardly an echo chamber. But despite the anonymous nature of an online forum, it’s still a community that builds expectations and habits over time. Charging in as a stranger with…emphatic…opinions often leads to pushback (first impressions are not always true, of course, but they are powerful).

Two hypothetical ways to express an opinion:

“What is this shit?! Picard would never do that. Oh my god, have any of these writers ever seen an episode of Star Trek before picking up a pen?”

OR

“Well that’s unexpected. Picard seems quite out of character in this scene. So far, I don’t like what I’m seeing and it makes me question whether the writers are as familiar as they should be with the material. Am I missing something? Anyone have differing thoughts that might shed some light?”

Which of the two is more inviting as a conversation starter?
 
Of course there can. There’s a considerable variety of opinions around here—it’s hardly an echo chamber. But despite the anonymous nature of an online forum, it’s still a community that builds expectations and habits over time. Charging in as a stranger with…emphatic…opinions often leads to pushback (first impressions are not always true, of course, but they are powerful).

Two hypothetical ways to express an opinion:

“What is this shit?! Picard would never do that. Oh my god, have any of writers ever seen an episode of Star Trek before picking up an open?”

OR

“Well that’s unexpected. Picard seems quite out of character in this scene. So far, I don’t like what I’m seeing and it makes me question whether the writers are as familiar as they should be with the material. Am I missing something? Anyone have differing thoughts that might shed some light?”

Which of the two is more inviting as a conversation starter?

And I apologise over my initial posts. I really do. Not excusing myself, but I do. I'd lost the plot at that stage (i was about to say like the writers... i can't fecking help myself) but honestly, cheers for the lovely responses.
 
And I apologise over my initial posts. I really do. Not excusing myself, but I do. I'd lost the plot at that stage (i was about to say like the writers... i can't fecking help myself) but honestly, cheers for the lovely responses.
Nobody expects everyone to praise the show, individual tastes are obviously going to vary wildly.
But, I hope you can see at this point that one doesn't have to continuously harp on the negatives once one's opinion has been posted.

Besides that, I have always found that with something I am a 'Fan' of, I don't usually specifically hone in on the parts I don't like.
That almost always ends up destroying any enjoyment that might be had.
It's just a TV show, I gonna let stuff like that slide so I can continue to enjoy it.
Otherwise, I might as well stop watching.
:shrug:
 
Nobody has actually responded to what I stated initially about one huge plot contrivance by the way. Force field going at the same time they decided to kill Vadic just to further the plot. She jumps up a shaft as they fire at nothing ( they're lucky they didn't kill one another) . And it had nothing to do with her crew, even though Crusher told Picard that she was too relaxed, that she knows something. Moments like this divorce me entirely from a story because it just doesn't make sense.
 
Nobody expects everyone to praise the show, individual tastes are obviously going to vary wildly.
But, I hope you can see at this point that one doesn't have to continuously harp on the negatives once one's opinion has been posted.

Besides that, I have always found that with something I am a 'Fan' of, I don't usually specifically hone in on the parts I don't like.
That almost always ends up destroying any enjoyment that might be had.
It's just a TV show, I gonna let stuff like that slide so I can continue to enjoy it.
Otherwise, I might as well stop watching.
:shrug:

I'm a fan of good story telling, always have been. And, beyond that, good characters that I can respond to. It's just been bad.... and I wish it were good... I really do. I'm praying that they pull it out of the fire with the last couple of episodes.
 
Nobody expects everyone to praise the show, individual tastes are obviously going to vary wildly.
But, I hope you can see at this point that one doesn't have to continuously harp on the negatives once one's opinion has been posted.

Besides that, I have always found that with something I am a 'Fan' of, I don't usually specifically hone in on the parts I don't like.
That almost always ends up destroying any enjoyment that might be had.
It's just a TV show, I gonna let stuff like that slide so I can continue to enjoy it.
Otherwise, I might as well stop watching.
:shrug:
I stopped watching Discovery and Picard before the first seasons ended. I think we're very different that way. But I can distance myself from them... the issue with Picard now is that they brought the old crew back and alot of people that I respect as reviewers said it was good, so I was primed to enjoy it. You know where I'm coming from, right?
 
Huh? The changelings aren't against using transporters. We even see some beam in from the Intrepid to help catch Jack.

It was Ro that was against using the transporter because of several suspicious transporter accidents recently.
I must have misremembered then.
 
I figured out where they're going with having Data and Lore both be components in DataLoreEtc's personality. It all goes back to "The Enemy Within". Data is the Good Kirk. Lore is the Evil Kirk. Together, they make one whole person. Data has what Lore doesn't have and vice versa. By having these conflicting impulses, it makes them closer to being Human.

The memories of Altan help ground this new being with actual Human experiences they can draw from in their memory.

This character actually has a lot of potential, the more I think about it. There won't be enough time to fully explore it, but it's interesting nonetheless. How do you integrate all these different parts to make a functional person?
 
What exactly do you not agree with? You slag me over having an issue about the plotting and I give you a few examples and you just say, "nah, I don't agree with you." Fair enough. I'll leave you be so leave me be too, you know? I'm not quite sure what the issue is here.
Look, it's really simple.

You don't like stuff about the show. Others like the stuff you don't like.

There's no correct answer here. Everyone is correct about what they like or dislike because it is purely subjective. It's not like if you provide just the right examples that we will all end up agreeing with you because no other opinion is possible.

It's all a matter of taste. It's ok if we don't end up agreeing.

You've made your point. Those who agree with you, agree. Those who don't, don't. Move on.

And I suggest everyone else don't feed the trolls.
 
Back in the old days, four doctors out of five recommended Lucky Strike Cigarettes. Or so I heard from Mad Men.

Moral of the story: Don't listen to what reviewers think. Listen to what you think.

On the side: There are lots of reviewers I've disagreed with over the decades. I still respect them. Just as people with opinions that sometimes line up with mine and sometimes don't.
 
You've all been skirting away from the main issue regarding whether or not they were justified in possibly killing Vadic (which they most definitely were going to do by the way),.

No, they were not "most definitely" going to kill her. They were talking within her hearing reach. And, I watched them firing the phasers at goo-vadic in my video editing software, frame by frame, and they hit almost every shot. The phasers were on a low setting.
 
Thanks for the like, Ian. I'd bet if we do see them that they would be much different to the grey suited, grey reptilian warriors that we'd seen in DS9 back in the day!
Television producers are always trying to update creature effects from the past so they look so much more realistic than the older versions!
JB
You very obviously haven't watched a single episode of Picard, especially this season.

A) They've stuck to the '80s/'90s look of everything with only minor differences if they've had any at all.

B) I know you haven't seen any of it because Worf looks like Worf.

C) Most important: They've shown a TOS-style Constitution Class ship at a Fleet Museum. Not the SNW version. The TOS fucking version.

So you're mistaken in the extreme when you're talking about this series and especially this season.
I owe you an apology. I came down way too harsh on you. I was in a bad mood that day, due to reasons that have nothing to do with here. So, I'm sorry. I've been feeling bad about it for a few days.

I'm prone to having a really bad temper sometimes, on top of a drinking problem. That doesn't excuse it, but I just want to explain it.
 
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When I think of all the movies that get "Fresh" ratings on Rotten Tomatoes and I can barely stand or don't like at all I'd say reviewers are at best a relative set of guideposts that may be mostly or even totally worthless depending on your own tastes and desires.
Best way to use film critics (had to read hundreds of reviews by dozens of critics for a research project on history and film a little over 20 years ago) is to find a couple who appear to have similar tastes to yours and stick with them. You won’t always agree with them but, in my experience, where you do agree, you’ll do well. Sadly, mine is gone. It was Roger Ebert. If he liked something, chances were strong that I would too. If he didn’t like something, results were more mixed. Still, helped whittle down the chaff. And it was a guide, not a “must agree”. Plus, he wrote well and had a great understanding of genre—he judged films, with few exceptions, against their peers, as a fair review should.
 
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