Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x04 - "No Win Scenario"

[ED-209]

A really good episode, if I’m being really critical:

1. get a sample of the changling and we can track it - nope, when a shapeshifter is a rock if you scan it you scan a rock, suppose they could’ve found a way in the in between years.

2. when 7 killed the changling it should’ve turned to coal.

Could Jack himself be the weapon they’re after?

 

[Timofnine]

I think that I have figured out why Captain Shaw does not want to refer to Seven as Commander Seven, but I could be wrong.

We all assumed that Shaw’s refusal to acknowledge Seven by her preferred name was the result of a bias against ex Borg because of Wolf 359. But in this weeks episode Shaw explained his escape from the USS Constance during the battle of Wolf 359. Shaw was randomly chosen for a place on the escape pod by someone pointing and numbering those to board, with Shaw being one of the lucky chosen ones. Of course, this leads to survivors guilt as displayed in this weeks episode quite explicitly as a result of a liberal dosage of painkillers.

I think that Captain Shaw was chosen to survive after being selected as number 10. Number 7 could have been one of his friends who did not make it. Shaw may not want to refer to Seven as 7 because of this personal connection to the cold use of numbers leading to his survival of the devastating battle against the cube? Shaw’s surviving crew became a lottery of numbers, which combined with Borg designations could actually be triggering to him. Seven could in return explain to Shaw why her name is important to her, I have mentioned my theories about this earlier but cannot find my original posts.

I assumed that Shaw was a bully to Seven, but in this situation we could understand his motives and perhaps a heart to heart with Seven could resolve things somewhat between the pair. Shaw may one day be proud to call his Commander ‘Captain Seven’, in honour of his fallen comrades and out of respect for Annika.

 

[ED-209]

I think that I have figured out why Captain Shaw does not want to refer to Seven as Commander Seven, but I could be wrong.

We all assumed that Shaw’s refusal to acknowledge Seven by her preferred name was the result of a bias against ex Borg because of Wolf 359. But in this weeks episode Shaw explained his escape from the USS Constance during the battle of Wolf 359. Shaw was randomly chosen for a place on the escape pod by someone pointing and numbering those to board, with Shaw being one of the lucky chosen ones. Of course, this leads to survivors guilt as displayed in this weeks episode quite explicitly as a result of a liberal dosage of painkillers.

I think that Captain Shaw was chosen to survive after being selected as number 10. Number 7 could have been one of his friends who did not make it. Shaw may not want to refer to Seven as 7 because of this personal connection to the cold use of numbers leading to his survival of the devastating battle against the cube? Shaw’s surviving crew became a lottery of numbers, which combined with Borg designations could actually be triggering to him. Seven could in return explain to Shaw why her name is important to her, I have mentioned my theories about this earlier but cannot find my original posts.

I assumed that Shaw was a bully to Seven, but in this situation we could understand his motives and perhaps a heart to heart with Seven could resolve things somewhat between the pair. Shaw may one day be proud to call his Commander ‘Captain Seven’, in honour of his fallen comrades and out of respect for Annika.

I like that

 

[jackoverfull]

suppose they could’ve found a way in the in between years

exactly: it’s been almost 30 years and they had a war against those guys, I’m sure Starfleet spent a lot of resources on finding ways to track them.

2. when 7 killed the changling it should’ve turned to coal.

maybe it depends on how they are killed? Or on their age? Or on other factors?

 

[SJGardner]

Vadic can be a full changeling and still be subservient, this is not the Great Link, this is a splinter group that can have a completely different caste structure not seen previously in what we saw on DS9.

Maybe one of the Hundred who never experienced the joys of the Link and is being controlled by the promise of linking with the rest of the renegades? Treating it in a similar way to drug addiction might be an interesting angle to explore.

 

[O'Dib]

A full changeling wouldn't need a knife to cut off a hand

I think all she did was a surface wound to release some of her liquid. Otherwise she may have needed to fully liquefy to become segmented like that. Have we ever seen a founder go "metallic" partially like T1000? Turn its hand into a shrike so they can flip the bird?

 

[SJGardner]

Weirdly enough, if she's a Changeling and her hand is actually a part of her, she wouldn't even need a knife to detach it. When Bashir asked Odo for a sample of his body, he simply expelled a bit of liquid through the tip of his index finger, so they're definitely able to detach parts of themselves on their own.

 

[Enterpriserules]

Maybe one of the Hundred who never experienced the joys of the Link and is being controlled by the promise of linking with the rest of the renegades? Treating it in a similar way to drug addiction might be an interesting angle to explore.

Could be something like this!

 

[voyager1]

Okay something that I have rerunning through my mind.

Spoiler

Shaw said the real Borg are still out there

I think they might be connected to Jack Crusher somehow. The tree, door opening and destruction are all pretty good allegories to them.

Spoiler

tree equals connection to the collective
door equals unlocking he has some Borg bits in him, become one etc
destruction equals maybe his subconscious or something fighting it.

Sorry if someone else has come up with this theory.

 

[ToddCam]

In my fanboyish heart of hearts, I've always wanted a Borg vs. Dominion situation. Is it coming true?!

 

[Nerys Myk]

Vadic might be a new type of Changeling. A semi-solid

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I think that I have figured out why Captain Shaw does not want to refer to Seven as Commander Seven, but I could be wrong.

We all assumed that Shaw’s refusal to acknowledge Seven by her preferred name was the result of a bias against ex Borg because of Wolf 359. But in this weeks episode Shaw explained his escape from the USS Constance during the battle of Wolf 359. Shaw was randomly chosen for a place on the escape pod by someone pointing and numbering those to board, with Shaw being one of the lucky chosen ones. Of course, this leads to survivors guilt as displayed in this weeks episode quite explicitly as a result of a liberal dosage of painkillers.

I think that Captain Shaw was chosen to survive after being selected as number 10. Number 7 could have been one of his friends who did not make it. Shaw may not want to refer to Seven as 7 because of this personal connection to the cold use of numbers leading to his survival of the devastating battle against the cube? Shaw’s surviving crew became a lottery of numbers, which combined with Borg designations could actually be triggering to him. Seven could in return explain to Shaw why her name is important to her, I have mentioned my theories about this earlier but cannot find my original posts.

I assumed that Shaw was a bully to Seven, but in this situation we could understand his motives and perhaps a heart to heart with Seven could resolve things somewhat between the pair. Shaw may one day be proud to call his Commander ‘Captain Seven’, in honour of his fallen comrades and out of respect for Annika.

Wow, talk about overanalyzing! Shaw doesn't like Seven because she was a Borg (and to him still is). His lengthy speech was pretty much meant to show his disdain for the Borg, and that he felt survivor's guilt for being "lucky number 10". Not much deeper than that.

 

[Commander Troi]

Damn good. I'm really enjoying this season.

 

[NCC-73515]

She gives the expression "Talk to the hand!" a whole new meaning.

Vadic just did what Arnie told her to do:

 

[Soong-type Android]

Anyone else find the script nonsensical and offensive? Would the old Picard have just given up hope in the middle of a crisis and headed down to the holodeck? Would a place for recreation really have its own independent power source while more important systems are failing throughout the ship? Would the ship's captain just hide away in his quarters? Should viewers just accept an android with the mind of elderly admiral is the only person who can "fly blind"?

 

[Wouter]

I'd like to introduce you to Smirnoff Vodka, Blue WKD, Fosters, Carling, and Tenants Super, none of which have every been praised for their taste, and all of which have got me leathered more than once just for the sake of getting leathered.

Can't speak to anywhere else but I'd say the % in UK who drink for the taste is pretty damn low

If so, thay may be a difference with other places in Europe, then. Over here, many drink for the taste: wine (usually when dining - and wines can taste very different too, from acidic to sweet), special beers (which we specialise in, though lots of countries now have good beer), porto, elixir, cognac, amaretto,...

There are many alcoholic beverages that taste good (depending on one's taste of course, but there so many variations that there is something for every taste) and that are also being consumed - at least by a significant part of their users - for their taste and not to get drunk. Of course, the amount one drinks is then also adapted to the alcohol percentage.

I have the impression that attitude to alcohol is very different in the Anglosaxon countries. And of course there are always those who consume alcohol to get high as quickly as possible, but I wouldn't say that this is a majority of the users over here.

 

[Wouter]

I'm starting to think this Titan "refit" scenario is a trial run to explain how Strange New Worlds' Enterprise becomes TOS Enterprise.

Uggh. Please no.

Then I'd rather they say it was a virus that caused the ship to mutate.

 

[Dee1891]

I think that I have figured out why Captain Shaw does not want to refer to Seven as Commander Seven, but I could be wrong.

I don't know. Because Hansen is her real name and she is a Starfleet officer?

 

[Tuskin38]

Anyone else find the script nonsensical and offensive?

Nope.

Would a place for recreation really have its own independent power source while more important systems are failing throughout the ship?

Voyager said it did. You wouldn't want them to contradict another show would you?

Would the ship's captain just hide away in his quarters?

He wasn't hiding, he was injured, and he gave command to Riker.

Would the old Picard have just given up hope in the middle of a crisis and headed down to the holodeck?

This isn't the old Picard. He also isn't the captain.

 

[fireproof78]

Anyone else find the script nonsensical and offensive? W

I'm long past being offended by a TV show.

Also, no, no I wasn't.