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I think this Doc Zimmerman character is going to turn out great!
I think this Doc Zimmerman character is going to turn out great!
TV Guide featuring Voyager, "most promising and risky Star Trek yet!"
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Pretty much every article on the new show back then was a variation of that theme. The show was going to be so different than what came before and all of TPTB were on board with it. Until they weren't and we got TNG lite. Makes one wonder what really went on behind the scenes to change the course so drastically. I hope the documentary dives into some of this.
Gotta love the Winston Select ad "You can't rush smooth flavor."
Gotta love the Winston Select ad "You can't rush smooth flavor."
I remember when this article came out. I consumed it eagerly.
TNG lite? Hm. I'm doing a VOY rewatch now (which makes up for a few episodes I missed here and there) and I'm impressed by how much more I prefer it over TNG. And VOY was different, with the first regular hologram and ex-Borg characters and a woman captain. I'm finding that I love the show even more than I thought I did.
TNG lite? Hm. I'm doing a VOY rewatch now (which makes up for a few episodes I missed here and there) and I'm impressed by how much more I prefer it over TNG. And VOY was different, with the first regular hologram and ex-Borg characters and a woman captain. I'm finding that I love the show even more than I thought I did.
I honestly feel like it's just a combination of things and I don't think it was just UPN. Part of me thinks that Season 1 was exactly what the producers wanted to do as more TNG stories but in a TOS type environment. I don't think they had someone like Ira Behr pushing to go hard into the idea of them being stranded and having a real division between Starfleet and Maquis, not to say everything needed to be like DS9 and Starfleet/Bajor though. I just think Rick Berman, Jeri Taylor and Brannon Braga kind of got what they wanted to be honest.Pretty much every article on the new show back then was a variation of that theme. The show was going to be so different than what came before and all of TPTB were on board with it. Until they weren't and we got TNG lite. Makes one wonder what really went on behind the scenes to change the course so drastically. I hope the documentary dives into some of this.
Gotta love the Winston Select ad "You can't rush smooth flavor."
I remember when this article came out. I consumed it eagerly.
TNG lite? Hm. I'm doing a VOY rewatch now (which makes up for a few episodes I missed here and there) and I'm impressed by how much more I prefer it over TNG. And VOY was different, with the first regular hologram and ex-Borg characters and a woman captain. I'm finding that I love the show even more than I thought I did.
I care about the VOY characters far more than I care about the TNG characters (not that I don't like the TNG characters, it's that the Voyager crew feel like a family).
Ten of them, anyway. Eleven with Naomi. The rest were just nameless recruiting poster fodder.
Fun for the whole family.
I remember when this article came out. I consumed it eagerly.
TNG lite? Hm. I'm doing a VOY rewatch now (which makes up for a few episodes I missed here and there) and I'm impressed by how much more I prefer it over TNG. And VOY was different, with the first regular hologram and ex-Borg characters and a woman captain. I'm finding that I love the show even more than I thought I did.
Part of the reason why I've grown increasingly keen on Tour de Delta during these past few years is because it's not overbearingly dark like more modern Trek. I - personally - would still put TNG above VOY (primarily because the writing of the former is generally better than the latter), but...it's closer than ever before.
I'm not sure whether LD and Prodigy strike your fancy or not, but those shows are miles apart from Discovery (or at least the early seasons of Discovery) in terms of how they feel. The animated shows *feel* like Star Trek in a way that the first two seasons of Discovery do not. I thought the first season of SNW was fairly optimistic as well in its tone. Picard S1 was somewhat dark, but not overbearingly so, and I don't really care what S2 felt like because almost all of it happened in an alternate reality. S3 so far (no spoilers!) doesn't seem overly grim but it could get there, I suppose.
All this is to say that if you find the recent live action shows too dark, and you have not watched LD or Prodigy, you may want to try them. They're not dark at all. And indeed Prodigy took on some very significant "Voyager sequel" overtones during its run, which was a fantastically welcome surprise that was not teased in its promotional material (or at least, I didn't pick up on it), and has me loving it (although the show is pretty good even apart from the Voyager connection).
Overbearingly dark is the name of my metal band.
Also, isn't even close to what modern Trek actually is.
And I would still put Discovery, Picard and Prodigy above Voyager.
Also, isn't even close to what modern Trek actually is.
And I would still put Discovery, Picard and Prodigy above Voyager.
I think there's dark elements to Picard and Discovery, at least first seasons, but really DS9 was way more dark than those. Modern Trek has all the cartoons and the films and Strange New Worlds they're not dark.
Prodigy, yes. Prodigy is fun. And I usually enjoy Voyager, too. I'm having to force myself to watch Picard.
You "usually enjoy" Voyager? You're one of the most prolific posters in this forum! Maybe you meant another series.
1. I talk about Voyager because I liked it. It had a stellar cast with great chemistry between the leads. It had a sort of "comfort food" aspect to it. It was kind of the mac and cheese of Star Trek.
2. I talk about it because it could have been made a lot better with relatively little effort. Like zapping that bowl of lukewarm mac and cheese in the microwave for 15 seconds. Cheese gets all melty, sooo good.
3. I talk about it because it could have taken Trek in some wild new directions, and it can be frustrating sometimes that its potential was never explored. Add some spicy meatballs to that mac and cheese, then zap it, and WOW! Tasty!
4. You probably shouldn't try to understand the motivations of a person who calls himself "Oddish".
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I agree with this, however on a good day I'd actually put VOY above TNG and DS9 as well.
There's overlap between the three. And the best episodes aren't that far apart... Inner Light, Year of Hell, The Visitor, Best of Both Worlds, Scorpion... they're all up there.
I definitely agree. Voyager could be great went it wanted to be and I think it did high concept best out of all the Treks.
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