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Spoilers Did Picard finally ''right the ship'' with Picard season 3?

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It's still early in the game, but I'm hoping this will be the best-received modern season of Trek.

All the right elements are there. Just depends how it ultimately plays out.
It's been the best reviewed season of Star Trek in decades. Traditional and "access media" reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. 301 only received two negative reviews from prominent YouTubers and endorsements that would have been otherwise unthinkable a year ago.

Just today, the showrunner of HOUSE OF THE DRAGON tweeted a positive reception.

The first two episodes have established the credibility to begin to get especially excited for the touted 304, 305, and 306.

Those that are not enjoying the season, but have enjoyed the other output of the last five years, still have STRANGE NEW WORLDS season 2 and DISCOVERY season 5 to look forward to.
 
If they didn't insist on avoiding the TNG cast for whatever reason in S1, they probably could have been at a much better place in the beginning to avoid some of the mess that they wrote themselves into... the fact that half the cast had to be written out and forgotten about for S3 is a sign of that.

Who knows what a three season show with the entire TNG crew would have looked like.
 
If they didn't insist on avoiding the TNG cast for whatever reason in S1
Because Patrick didn't want to being everyone back in Season 1, he wanted the show to stand on its own before they started bringing in more legacy characters.

the fact that half the cast had to be written out and forgotten about for S3 is a sign of that.
They probably had to write them out because it would have been way too many characters to keep track of write for, and probably some cost saving in there as well.
 
Because Patrick didn't want to being everyone back in Season 1, he wanted the show to stand on its own.
Yes, I know, and as someone who doesn't like S1 and S2, it was a mistake. If it was a condition of his participation, I would have rather seen a three season Frakes/Riker show with everyone but Stewart. But it is what it is.
 
Because Patrick didn't want to being everyone back in Season 1, he wanted the show to stand on its own before they started bringing in more legacy characters.
And it worked very well for Season 1. Though, I think S2 could have gone closer to Season 3 rather than the time travel route.
 
You know better than Sir Patrick Stewart? :vulcan:

Sir Patrick didn't want to do TNG S8 (he'd done the show for seven years and four feature films).
Yet here we are... and it seems the reception for S3 has been much better than for the first two seasons.

Of course someone elsewhere reminded me of Stewart's famous rewrites/demands for Insurrection which ruined Pillar's film (well documented in Pillar's book) and his demands to make Picard more "actioney" leading to the dune buggy scene in Nemesis, so maybe he needs someone who can push back on his ideas.
 
Because Patrick didn't want to being everyone back in Season 1, he wanted the show to stand on its own before they started bringing in more legacy characters.


They probably had to write them out because it would have been way too many characters to keep track of write for, and probably some cost saving in there as well.

It is my understanding that Isa Briones, Alison Pill, Santiago Cabrera, and Orla Brady were not written out for creative reasons but because the cost of bringing back the TNG cast was too high to both keep most of the original PIC cast and maintain the other levels of spending the show entailed.
 
Yet here we are... and it seems the reception for S3 has been much better than for the first two seasons.

The season 3 pitch is Terry Matalas' story though. Had we had the TNG cast return in season 1 with Chabon and Goldsman at the helm it still may not have been as good as what we're getting now. Based on a comment Chabon made a few years ago about not even wanting to mention the Dominion war in season 1 I'm glad how things turned out for us to get this story (based on what I've seen and read about season 3 so far).
 
The season 3 pitch is Terry Matalas' story though. Had we had the TNG cast return in season 1 with Chabon and Goldsman at the helm it still may not have been as good as what we're getting now. Based on a comment Chabon made a few years ago about not even wanting to mention the Dominion war in season 1 I'm glad how things turned out for us to get this story (based on what I've seen and read about season 3 so far).
Yeah, this is like wondering what a JMS version of Star Trek might have looked like, or what Enterprise might have been if Behr had actually taken it over. Maybe a TNG reunion under the previous showrunners would have been total garbage, with Geordie getting his eyeballs ripped out by crazy Romulans. lol
 
It is my understanding that Isa Briones, Alison Pill, Santiago Cabrera, and Orla Brady were not written out for creative reasons but because the cost of bringing back the TNG cast was too high to both keep most of the original PIC cast and maintain the other levels of spending the show entailed.
That's also what I would think - it was deemed too expensive too, essentially, keep two sets of main actors. Bringing back the (bulk of the) TNG cast meant dropping most of the others, regardless of creative reasons.

It would probably have been better to do it the other way round - use much of the TNG crew at first and introduce new characters gradually, to take over. But they didn't want a TNG reunion at first, only to go for that in the 3rd season anyway.
 
Yes, I know, and as someone who doesn't like S1 and S2, it was a mistake. If it was a condition of his participation, I would have rather seen a three season Frakes/Riker show with everyone but Stewart. But it is what it is.

Yeah I would love a Riker show. Even at 70 he's the same laid back loyal officer we've always known. I would love go see a whole season with him as a older captain of a starship.
 
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