Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Feb 15, 2023.

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  1. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    exactly: they switched to numerals because Seventh of Nine didn’t sound as good, I guess.
     
  2. Tallguy

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    Because in the future Agents of SHIELD will finally get the adoration it always deserved and we all love Melinda May (and Ming-Na Wen in general).

    No worries, I had to look it up.
     
  3. Tuskin38

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    I want to see Ming-Na in a Star Trek production.
     
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  4. Char Kais

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    Another thing about the pump action phaser weapon:

    https://trekmovie.com/2023/02/18/ex...prise-roots-of-mtalas-prime-and-frontier-day/
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    That's cool that Terry Matalas tries to explain the pump action phaser weapon (yeah, it's the "rule of cool", Linda Hamilton, Annie Oakley [he forgot to mention Sigourney Weaver]) and that he is referencing "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force".

    There is just one tiny little problem.
    He is wrong.
    Matalas is making it up.

    There is no pump action weapon in either "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force" or "Star Trek: Elite Force II".
    All the weapons in these games are automatic.

    There isn't even a shotgun-like weapon in "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force" at all.
    There is a shotgun-like weapon, the type of weapon most commonly associated with pump action weapons, in "Star Trek: Elite Force II" called "Assault Rifle" but it's automatic, not pump action.

    Nice try Terry.
     
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  5. SJGardner

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  6. Campe

    Campe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    The shotgun phaser rifles were the literal least of my concerns with the premiere. Thought it was silly. Moved on.
     
  7. Noname Given

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    It's a safety feature - you have to 'pump' to set the thing on 'Kill'. ;)
     
  8. jackoverfull

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    definitely not in EF1, but I seem to remember either the phaser rifle or the assault rifle in EF2 having some kind of pump-like animation. Then again I haven’t played EF2 in ten years or so.
     
  9. Tallguy

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    Star Trek V?
     
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  10. Magistos

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    It is the rule of cool here. I know it. But I'm going to roll with it and come up with a head canon: Crazy idea here - maybe it a former Dominion war weapon. Massive discharge when fired, but to keep the weapon from overloading, the charges are stored in separate high capacity energy cells that you have to load each time. Almost like a phaser mortar (I'm spitballing here, don't look at me like that! :D). The shots did blow the heck out of the aliens when they hit.
     
  11. cooleddie74

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    That was a pneumatic projectile rifle fashioned from random everyday scrap metal but might have had a pump function. Did J'Onn slide a pump-like feature after he loaded the rocks into it? The editing of that opening scene is a little jarring.
     
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  12. Greg Cox

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    See also "loose cannon" or "running out of steam," etc.

    If a Trek character accuse somebody of being a loose cannon, or complains, after a long ordeal, that they're running on fumes, are we going to take that expression literally or just assume it's a become a common turn of phrase? "Above my pay grade" is the same thing.

    I mean, when folks accuse Kirk or Picard of "cowboy diplomacy," they don't mean that they're literally rounding up a posse, loading their six-shooters, and putting on ten-gallon hats. :)
     
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  13. Char Kais

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    The "Assault Rifle" in EF2 is a shotgun, but it's an automatic shotgun, not a pump action shotgun.
    There are no pump action weapons in either EF1 or EF2 whatsoever.
     
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    "Saddle up. Lock and load."
     
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  15. Magistos

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    There's a pump action Klingon disrupter in VI, I believe.
     
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  16. Tallguy

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    No, didn't the phasers have some kind of pump action? (Don't make me watch Star Trek V again. I've already promised I'd watch Indy and the Crystal Skull again before the new movie comes out this summer.)
     
  17. Magistos

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    Heck "Second star to the right" by Kirk in VI. We know he didn't mean that literally.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    As far as I can remember they were just point-and-shoot. The hand phasers were the same ones more or less we see in Star Trek VI.
     
  19. fireproof78

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    The toy for the "assault phaser" had a slide action on it.
     
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  20. JirinPanthosa

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    I'm liking it so far.

    One thing I don't get is why Seven was promoted directly to Commander. I can see counting her experience on Voyager as her years as an Ensign, but someone who has never formally been a member of Starfleet immediately promoted to command?
     
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