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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

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He called the Klingons bastards in ST3.
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clearly he meant that those particular Klingons were not conceived in wedlock approved by the Klingon Catholic Church,nor King K'Plah VI and so were ineligible to inherit land or hold titles. I'm certain if Kirk knew otherwise he would have addressed each of them appropriately as to their lineage and titles.


hey, if some people can act like Star Trek should still be in the 60's, ill just pretend it's in the 1060's.
 
I will say I want the ships to get back to having a neck. I don't think I realized as a teenager how big the saucer of the Galaxy class was compared to the rest. If it were more balanced size-wise, I'd feel differently today. It's not a bad design, I just think some of the proportions are off. I grew up with the Movie Enterprise and A, so that's my shining star, and I admit my bias. :)
 
Of all the Enterprise designs, I like the Galaxy class the best. It might just be that it's the one I grew up with, but it just looks big and majestic, and a futuristic extension of the Constitution class in a way that the Neo-Constitution class in Picard isn't. The Galaxy class feels more like the designer said how would someone really make the original movie Enterprise and Enterprise-A look more futuristic, where the Titan-A looks like someone said how can we use elements of the Enterprise-A's design into something new.

Also, the Enterprise-D has something that every ship since Enterprise-E and First Contact has moved away from: a saucer and a neck.

The ship designs of John Eaves tend to not make the saucer section a saucer (it's more and more an arrowhead), and they get flattened to lose the neck connecting the saucer section and star drive.

Exactly. The E-E looks more like the SeaQuest with nacelles than it looks like an Enterprise.
 
If they really do take the Ent-D saucer and restore it to service like I keep hearing, I wonder which bridge it will have - the one from the show, or the one from GEN?

Since the GEN bridge was made for widescreen, I guess they'd use that...
 
25% never WAS a thing.
Yes we went over that already when thribs first posted it 3 days ago.

The 25% difference was a thing, just not a legal requirement. John Eaves didn't know why it was asked of him and speculated it had to do with legal reasons, and people took his speculation as fact.

The rumored E-F doesn't look remarkable in any way really. The other Enterprises, even the Sovereign, had a certain grandeur that the rumored E-F doesn't.
Rumoured? It was in the trailers, and in this episode. It isn't a rumour.
 
Yes we went over that already when thribs first posted it 3 days ago.

The 25% difference was a thing, just not a legal requirement. John Eaves didn't know why it was asked of him and speculated it had to do with legal reasons, and people took his speculation as fact.


Rumoured? It was in the trailers, and in this episode. It isn't a rumour.

Ok cool! It's still bland.
 
I dunno, I think 80s Nostalgia is more a late 00s/early-to-mid 10s thing. The it thing these days is 90s and 00s Nostalgia.

Cobra Kai
Matlock
Magnum PI
TNG
Stranger Things (takes place in the 80s)
Paper Girls (takes place in the 80s)
etc....

These are all shows currently streaming, on air, or in production. No 90s or 00s here.
 
Cobra Kai
Matlock
Magnum PI
TNG
Stranger Things (takes place in the 80s)
Paper Girls (takes place in the 80s)
etc....

These are all shows currently streaming, on air, or in production. No 90s or 00s here.

I would argue that the revived Magnum, P.I. represents the last visage of the "Lenkov-verse" revival of 1980s properties that began in the early 2010s. Matlock and Next Generation are as much elements of 90s nostalgia as 80s nostalgia -- they ended in '95 and '94, respectively. Stranger Things certainly represents 80s nostalgia, but it began production in the mid-10s and is producing its last season. Paper Girls is an adaptation of a mid-to-late '10s comic book and got cancelled after only one season. So I stand by my assessment that 80s Nostalgia is fading out.
 
Meh. I’ve never cared about the looks of the ships. There are some with saucers and nacelles? Then it’s Trek. Beyond that, doesn’t really matter.

I'm kinda that way, too. I'm blind to the finer points of starship design. It's got a saucer and nacelles? It's Starfleet.

Same way in real life. I couldn't tell a Ford from a Chevy from a Nissan if my life depended on it. :)
 
Well, I think a key bellweather for the rise of 00s Nostalgia -- the success of Spider-Man: No Way Home, a multi-billion-dollar hit that was essentially built on nostalgia for the biggest movies of 2002 and 2004, what with DeFoe and Molina returning as the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus and Tobey Maguire returning as the original Peter Parker. We're seeing other signs -- revivals or remakes of 00s shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender, iCarly, That's So Raven, the 2000s Notalgia Subreddit, The Batman being clearly built on tropes established in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, the Obi-Wan Kenobi series being a major revival of the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (and the rise in its popularity as younger Millennials raised on the PT have grown up), the Avatar film sequel coming out of nowhere to be a huge hit, the Matrix sequel... I agree we're not fully there yet, but we are definitely entering an Aughts Nostalgia era. 90s Nostalgia has been in full swing for at least half a decade now and I think it has more gas left in it too.
The Batman is a completely different and much better take on Batman than The Dark Knight Trilogy. I don't feel like I'm being lectured to all the time, it feels more adult, and is far grittier.

It gets it's influence from Ed Brubaker's comics and Dennis O'Neill's editorial reign more than anything else.
 
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Yup. Star Trek has always been about our humanity and the times it was made in.

I supervise Masters degree clinicians. My supervisor has a Masters degree. Her supervisor has a PhD. We all swear
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