The bridge crew seems to be
not quite on board with his attitude
Mariposa from S2, I think
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"
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TOS Movies all came out in or near the '80s. And the '80s are by far the Biggest Nostalgia Decade right now. And have been for a while. '80s Nostalgia has lasted twice as long as the actual decade itself.
And the TOS Movies are the best version of Star Trek in existence. <-- 100% biased opinion, but I'll wear it on my sleeve.
EDITED TO ADD: And we can't get the TOS Cast together again anymore. So having the TNG Cast (who were introduced in the '80s) is the next best thing. Really TNG is one of the last things from the '80s to have not received the Late Sequel Treatment yet. So this is keeping in step with everything else everywhere else.
And the TOS Movies are the best version of Star Trek in existence. <-- 100% biased opinion, but I'll wear it on my sleeve.
EDITED TO ADD: And we can't get the TOS Cast together again anymore. So having the TNG Cast (who were introduced in the '80s) is the next best thing. Really TNG is one of the last things from the '80s to have not received the Late Sequel Treatment yet. So this is keeping in step with everything else everywhere else.
I dunno, I think 80s Nostalgia is more a late 00s/early-to-mid 10s thing. The it thing these days is 90s and 00s Nostalgia.
In my orbit, I've seen '80s Nostalgia with the '90s bubbling underneath. The '00s haven't become nostalgic yet. At least not that I've seen. But that's only from what I've seen. Most of my friends are in their 40s, and I'm in my 40s, so that might have something to do with it too. No one my age is nostalgic for the early-2000s.
I honestly have an easier time believing that religion will die out and money and greed will go away from Earth in the next 300 years than I do thinking that curse words and cursing will not be a part of human culture.
People getting pissed and frustrated at other people and situations is going to happen even in a society with transporters and warp drive.
People getting pissed and frustrated at other people and situations is going to happen even in a society with transporters and warp drive.
It's the most versatile word in the language. It ain't going anywhere.
This - 100%. Humans get creative with their frustration. Full stop.
Because they've been looting the Star Trek Online parts bin for like several solid years now. Bringing it up to TV screen standards and shipping it out. Because why bother when a company is happily using your IP and is more than willing to hand the assets over to you?
On top of that, models and designs which worked fine on 4:9 TVs of the 80s and 90s look like absolute garbage on the widescreen TVs on a 16:9 rate. Which is why the Enterprise D got very famously kersploded in Generations and replaced with the sleeker E, and is reffered to as "The fat one" in the first episode of this very show. It was already a clunky design as is, and just packs on the pounds when filmed in widescreen.
The D came out in 87. Where's the nostalgia for that beautiful ship? The nacelle struts were beautifully sculpted into the secondary hull. The saucers was large and smoothed out at the edges. Everything looked like a true progression.
Well, I think a key bellweather for the rise of 00s Nostalgia -- the success of Spider-Man: No Way Home, a multi-billion-dollar hit that was essentially built on nostalgia for the biggest movies of 2002 and 2004, what with DeFoe and Molina returning as the Green Goblin and Doctor Octopus and Tobey Maguire returning as the original Peter Parker. We're seeing other signs -- revivals or remakes of 00s shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender, iCarly, That's So Raven, the 2000s Notalgia Subreddit, The Batman being clearly built on tropes established in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, the Obi-Wan Kenobi series being a major revival of the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy (and the rise in its popularity as younger Millennials raised on the PT have grown up), the Avatar film sequel coming out of nowhere to be a huge hit, the Matrix sequel... I agree we're not fully there yet, but we are definitely entering an Aughts Nostalgia era. 90s Nostalgia has been in full swing for at least half a decade now and I think it has more gas left in it too.
That '90s Show (which is '90s nostalgia on more than one level), Night Court, Frasier, even King of the Hill is coming back.
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Yep. Plus, it's not as though profanity is a social evil like war and poverty or prejudice. It's just a colorful means of expression, often used for emphasis.
(Suddenly remembering the character of Debra on DEXTER, whose colorfully salty language often approached poetry, and who was certainly not intended to be a crude, unintelligent character.)
Indeed. It was a very unbalanced, uneven design, that does not translate well outside of the 80s TV set.
Your point about 16:9 vs. 4:3 is a good one, but the E-D is not clunky. It was intentionally made curvy and sleek...sleek as in it looks like all one thing, as opposed the E-A which looks like several parts bolted together. Both are very nice looking ships but the E-D is all curves, almost like it was cast instead of constructed. It looks like a true evolution from the TOS era. The Sovereign class is ok...the neckless ships don't look good from all angles. The E-E looks great from any dorsal view but if you're looking straight on or from underneath it's pretty gross.
The Titan A is a step "backwards" in design but that's not really a value judgment. There's nothing sleek about it; it looks blocky and bolted together.
And honestly, the STO designs are..........fine. They seem bland to me. The rumored E-F doesn't look remarkable in any way really. The other Enterprises, even the Sovereign, had a certain grandeur that the rumored E-F doesn't.
I've loved trek all my life, and I liked the Ent-D back in the day. But as I've gotten older, the design has not aged well in my opinion. (Though Quark has stated what opinions are worth.) It's top heavy, unbalanced, and honestly a little weird looking. The E is better but really long and sinuous looking. It's aggressive and very post-Dominion War.
Of all the Enterprise designs, I like the Galaxy class the best. It might just be that it's the one I grew up with, but it just looks big and majestic, and a futuristic extension of the Constitution class in a way that the Neo-Constitution class in Picard isn't. The Galaxy class feels more like the designer said how would someone really make the original movie Enterprise and Enterprise-A look more futuristic, where the Titan-A looks like someone said how can we use elements of the Enterprise-A's design into something new.
Also, the Enterprise-D has something that every ship since Enterprise-E and First Contact has moved away from: a saucer and a neck.
The ship designs of John Eaves tend to not make the saucer section a saucer (it's more and more an arrowhead), and they get flattened to lose the neck connecting the saucer section and star drive.
Also, the Enterprise-D has something that every ship since Enterprise-E and First Contact has moved away from: a saucer and a neck.
The ship designs of John Eaves tend to not make the saucer section a saucer (it's more and more an arrowhead), and they get flattened to lose the neck connecting the saucer section and star drive.
25% never WAS a thing.
