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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

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The most bizarre thing about the ‘halberd’ retcon is that it was entirely unnecessary- if she’d just said ‘Bozeman’ or ‘Bateson’, Riker would have surely recalled the time they got stuck in a time loop and DATA added threes to everything in an attempt to communicate across time loops. Same solution to the same puzzle, but without the confusing made up virus.
 
The most bizarre thing about the ‘halberd’ retcon is that it was entirely unnecessary- if she’d just said ‘Bozeman’ or ‘Bateson’, Riker would have surely recalled the time they got stuck in a time loop and DATA added threes to everything in an attempt to communicate across time loops. Same solution to the same puzzle, but without the confusing made up virus.
Given the solution was "3," I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original idea, and it was changed in a rewrite.
 
Given the solution was "3," I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original idea, and it was changed in a rewrite.
Yes, I thought exactly the same thing! Like, it seemed such an obvious connection. Did they change it because it had to be something Picard wouldn't know the solution to, but Riker would?
 
Given the solution was "3," I wouldn't be surprised if that was the original idea, and it was changed in a rewrite.
Will be interesting to see if the computer virus is used by Picard et al against someone else at some point during the season
 
Yes, I thought exactly the same thing! Like, it seemed such an obvious connection. Did they change it because it had to be something Picard wouldn't know the solution to, but Riker would?
I'd put my money on that one. I wouldn't be surprised if the intention was that Beverly deliberately chose a codeword that would force Picard to get at least some of the Enterprise crew involved too.
 
Yes, I thought exactly the same thing! Like, it seemed such an obvious connection. Did they change it because it had to be something Picard wouldn't know the solution to, but Riker would?
Maybe they wanted to remind the audience of BoBW, or not remind us of "Cause & Effect." Or, as cal888 suggests, they wanted to use a computer virus later on and thought this would be a good place to seed the idea.
 
By posting this ‘Way of the Warrior’ quote, you are insinuating that Worf would stoop to any level in order

you may infer that if you want.

I will note that Worf changes dramatically in the 12 years from Emcoibter at Farpoint until What we leave behind. How much he changes in the next 20 remains to be seen. Plenty of warriors that worf respects use cloaks and subterfuge to achieve victory.

Of Course WOTW wasn’t real trek as it disrespected Genes Vision and The Canon with worf saying he’d never been on a cloaking federation ship when just a year earlier he was on the enterprise as it cloaked AND phased out of an asteroid.
 
Nope. It stank. I think it was around the chateau scenes they realized that had a steaming turd forming.

You literally have no clue what happened with the production of that show. You don’t know how much preproduction work would have had to been done in order to do back to back seasons. Seriously, there is a ton of work that goes into the production of one hour of TV let alone 20. And these are treated like movies so the majority of that work would have to be done ahead of or during the early days of season 2 production.
 
No, you didn't. You went on a tare about the Chateau and Days of our Lives. None of which answers why it matters if I'm in the minority opinion or might be disappointed in Season 3.

It doesn't matter. You don't seem to care. All I know is I'm going to hopefully enjoy it.
 
The Artificial Tango is back now that the season has started!

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A quick update, when researching for the show, Memory Alpha had season 2 ending in 2401 and season 3 was listed as starting in 2411, hence where the 10 year discussion comes in. Matalas said in a Den of Geek interview, "Although Matalas confirms that Picard season three is set “at least a year and a half to two years” after the second season..." Thanks to an intrepid listener for the heads up!
 
I'd put my money on that one. I wouldn't be surprised if the intention was that Beverly deliberately chose a codeword that would force Picard to get at least some of the Enterprise crew involved too.
Yes I think that was their reasoning- that Picard needed Riker to continue forward. But then why did Beverly say "No Starfleet- Trust No One"- Picard immediately turned to Riker, who is in Starfleet!
 
you may infer that if you want.

I will note that Worf changes dramatically in the 12 years from Emcoibter at Farpoint until What we leave behind. How much he changes in the next 20 remains to be seen. Plenty of warriors that worf respects use cloaks and subterfuge to achieve victory.

Of Course WOTW wasn’t real trek as it disrespected Genes Vision and The Canon with worf saying he’d never been on a cloaking federation ship when just a year earlier he was on the enterprise as it cloaked AND phased out of an asteroid.
You do have to admit that there is quite the difference between a standard Klingon or Romulan cloaking device and an experimental ‘Phase Cloak’ though.

A ‘Phase Cloak’ worked differently, it took a starships matter out of phase with all other matter and space around it, rendering the vessel ‘invisible’ as it was ‘out of phase’ with everything else. What is the definition of a phase? Are phases different levels of the ‘onion skin’ of reality and physics around us? If so, this is not the same as standard Romulan cloaking tech.

Did the Treaty of Algeron implicitly state that *anything* which makes a starship invisible goes against the terms of this agreement? Or was it referenced only to the specific Romulan cloaking technologies? Surely invisibility can not be illegal? What about other ‘stealth’ technologies? Transporters make people ‘invisible’ during transit, warp drive also gives the perception of ‘invisibility’ if adapted in ways such as the Picard Maneuver . Would the Picard Manuever be illegal according to the terms of the Treaty of Algeron? Ferengi may say so. :shrug:
 
Yes I think that was their reasoning- that Picard needed Riker to continue forward. But then why did Beverly say "No Starfleet- Trust No One"- Picard immediately turned to Riker, who is in Starfleet!

If the kid is genetically engineered, then Starfleet will dump him in an asylum, never to see the light of day again.

I'm not talking about Superhuman strength and super intellect. Boring.

Picard has two serious genetic defects.

Irumodic syndrome and Shalaft's Syndrome.

Purging her kid of that deadly/annoying shit, makes him a mutant freak who needs to be exiled from the gene pool just in case his engineered cells mutate into something that might bring the species down to it's knees.

Or she banged some daddy who is not riddled with foul sickness?
 
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