Since they thought about giving him hair, it must be before TNG. He had hair when Jack Sr. died...
Shaw is not a totally bad guy. He follows orders and is just dismissive of people, but doesn't break any rules.
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I say this as a fan of Discovery, a big fan in fact, but I've drawn the same mental lines in my head canon. Neither DSC or any other are any less real to me, but shunting DSC and SNW into their own pocket-universe just solves so many problems and allows either show to breathe away from wider Trek canon.
I don’t disagree but I don’t think that’s the case. And at the end of the day, it matters little to me. I’m in it for more of the stories than the continuity.
Indeed. I put it under the observer effect.
Absolutely. Stories first. Continuity is something that occupies my thought experiments during the wee hours during bouts of insomnia. I also don't think it's the case. I'm well aware in fact that it's not the case. It's just an easy way for me to square things away in my head-canon.
I'm not one of those types that would deign to bless a discussion by declaring objectively that DSC is in a different universe. It's just something that works for me personally.
I think that the inter-series continuity is important more than the intra-series continuity. I mean, how many times had Kirk’s Enterprise encountered androids, even downright almost human androids just for that aspect to be basically ignored with Data for TNG? But that point is very easily ignored with lesser things in the grand scheme of things.
They certainly didn't have Vulcans as crew.
(though there were probably Vulcan observers onboard at times to make sure we didn't do something stupid)
in one of the early S1 episodes Phlox and T’Pol are talking and Phlox mentions that T’Pol had already bested the previous “longest time” a Vulcan had served on a Starfleet ship. I think he said that Vulcan had only lasted a week.
Were it not for the likes of Relics, Trials and Tribble-ations and the various ENT Mirror episodes then I’d happily trot TOS and TAS into their own pocket universe as well.
What about Discovery 2x08 and 3x07
They use footage directly from TOS and TNG.
Mind you the TOS footage in 2x08 is for a previously on segment, not actually seen in-universe. But 3x07 uses footage of Spock from TNG.
Now I have a headache and it’s all your fault.
My job here is done.
Point is: people can whine about one little aspect of continuity not quite fitting in with the rest but after 57 years, advances in technology making effects better and many writers telling different stories, it’s amazing the continuity holds together as much as it does.
Trek's continuity may be the tightest of any franchise that started before 1980. That's pretty impressive for something that's had almost 1,000 canon productions spread across about eleven different series and thirteen films.
That just means the segment of Spock from "Unification" could have identically occurred in multiple parallel universes
Head Canon solves so many problems. Plus the novels were the first place to use head canon by making things mix together that shouldn't logically make sense. Like explaining how the Eugenics War happened while the 90's still looked like our 90's for one example. God help me though I am still trying to head canon me a away to make Spock and Burnham not brother and sister. Best I got is Discovery is from a alternate timeline where this happened. As for Spock mentioning her on SNW. He was drunk. He knew the Burnham from the Prime Universe and was all confused when he talked about her.
She's not; she's Sarek's and Amanda's ward. The term brother/sister is simply easier than explaining what the hell a ward is.
Head canon is like using a mod in an MMORPG. To you, it looks f***ing awesome. To the rest who don't have it you look stupid.
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