Man, did they have to start on the pump-action energy rifle? Give me a chance to settle in first before you pull that out of your ass, lol.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"
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3 hours, 47 minutes? For a 53 minute episode? I liked the episode but hard pass.
Could go either way.
They even had it in the premiere screening a week ago already
He was on Nepenthe for quite some time
Yes, I thought of Styles, but you're right, there's also some Esteban in him. Playing it safe, not risking his ship if it's not worth it, going by the book and following orders.
It could be that they separate Earth SF from ENT and Fed SF from later on, because Fed SF includes other member fleets. Like the plaques of all later Enterprises ignored the NX-01 because it wasn't a Fed SF ship to bear the name.
Yeah, no more Disco shuttles!
There is something coming next week where we learn a bit more about
her apparent ex, his apparent dad
Perhaps it's the uniform lighting, which makes it look like games from before Doom 3 and others came up with proper real-time shadows. Like the TMP self-lighting made it more realistic cause there wouldn't be another light source all around the ship. It looks great at the nebula though.
He reminds me of early Picard himself, dismissive of Riker, dismissive of kids, and of early Sisko, and clearly has some Lorca in him too!
People liked Lorca because he was 'edgy' and not a completely nice guy but with a dark side, so you'd think they'd like Shaw as well.
She used it herself in Unimatrix 0, but it's understandable that she wants to leave all that behind her, including losing Axom or whatever his name was.
There are ships with saucers and nacelles?! Memberberry! Wait, space is still black with little stars? Fan service! Spacedock is again a dock in space?! Fan berry service members!
Especially after several attacks with different faces...
I actually thought: oh no, are they gonna bring the red angel back and Burnham and/or her mom are involved...
It's a TOS DreadnoughtA Frontier Day trinket replica of the TOS Enterprise alongside too many TNG Enterprises. Customers clearly don't want "the fat one."
Using existing models that many of us own, turning what we have in our shelves into actual prop replicas, and acknowledging EM quality and dedication? Lazy! Gotta remake new models of the same size from scratch with a 25% different stand!
What if it's developed really well and leads to great scenes?
There is a shred of awareness left in him that will come to light next week
I'm assuming that since the guy watching Picard and Riker at the bar was also one of the crew on Shaw's ship, Captain Shaw already knew what Picard and Riker were up to and reacted to them with that in mind.
Wouldn't the safe bet be that mysterious bar guy is one of Plummer's cronies?
Good point. It can't be too hard to track down Jean-Luc Picard and William T. Riker when they're both on Earth. Amanda Plummer's people already have them under surveillance.
On a macro level, I think this season is going to be an "Undiscovered Country" for the TNG crew. A bit different, obviously, but thematically, they are getting the proper send off they deserved that Nemesis did not provide (that All Good Things did). TOS was the opposite. The TV show ended with a whimper, and TUC gave them what they deserved.
As fans, that is what this season is about. Getting these characters back together and showing what they have become. The plot of how it happens is just secondary, it just is.
If you are continue to be sore about the departures of Rios, Jurati, Soji, Elnor, and now Laris, you are gonna hate it. That die is cast. FWIW, I thought the Laris scene was lovely. And the S2 closer well done as well (save for some of the fight scene stuff).
Save for DS9, virtually every Trek show lacks character development iutside the main triumverate.
TOS: Kirk/Spock/McCoy. Others got more in the movies.
TNG: Picard/Data/Riker. Got a bit better as things went deeper.
DS9: Sisko/Kira/???. So good the 3rd is hard to tell.
VOY: Janeway/Doctor/Seven.
ENT: Archer/Trip/T'Pol.
DISCO: Burnham/Saru. And Georgiou, Pike, & Spock.
I thought Rios, Jurati, and Raffi got much better character development than Uhura, Tasha, Kim, and Hoshi, for instance. Despite 10 v 26 episode seasons.
Really encouraged by Beverly's first scene on that score. TOS & TNG remain my favorite Trek, but character development outside of Kirk/Spock/McCoy was virtually non-existent in TOS. And the female charcters got shorted in TNG (it is why Crosby left). DS9 was much better.
As fans, that is what this season is about. Getting these characters back together and showing what they have become. The plot of how it happens is just secondary, it just is.
If you are continue to be sore about the departures of Rios, Jurati, Soji, Elnor, and now Laris, you are gonna hate it. That die is cast. FWIW, I thought the Laris scene was lovely. And the S2 closer well done as well (save for some of the fight scene stuff).
Save for DS9, virtually every Trek show lacks character development iutside the main triumverate.
TOS: Kirk/Spock/McCoy. Others got more in the movies.
TNG: Picard/Data/Riker. Got a bit better as things went deeper.
DS9: Sisko/Kira/???. So good the 3rd is hard to tell.
VOY: Janeway/Doctor/Seven.
ENT: Archer/Trip/T'Pol.
DISCO: Burnham/Saru. And Georgiou, Pike, & Spock.
I thought Rios, Jurati, and Raffi got much better character development than Uhura, Tasha, Kim, and Hoshi, for instance. Despite 10 v 26 episode seasons.
Really encouraged by Beverly's first scene on that score. TOS & TNG remain my favorite Trek, but character development outside of Kirk/Spock/McCoy was virtually non-existent in TOS. And the female charcters got shorted in TNG (it is why Crosby left). DS9 was much better.
I’m going to start lying to people and tell them my Eaglemoss Enterprise-D is a screen used prop.
This TOS era fan gives this episode a 9.
Terry Matalas may indeed be a TNG era fan, but he sure as Hell seems to have decided to put the TNG cast and Universe through a TOS feature film era filter. <--- and so far this TOS era fan loves it.
The opening slate to the episode is straight out of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, and the episode borrowed a hell of a lot from that film.
The Titan exiting space dock scene is also a call back to the scene of the refit 1701 being piloted out of space stock by Lieutenant Savik. I did love the ribbing and quips between Riker and Picard in that scene; and about the only thing missing to really put a bow on it would have been Riker Picard asking seven of nine if she'd ever piloted of spaceship out of space dock before.
I mean they're all wondering why Beverly cut them all off 20 years ago; and low iand behold, when Picard and Riker finally make it to her ship, they find a 19-20 year-old son (who is obviously the result of Picard and Beverly's attempt to have a romantic relationship).
The character is obviously a call back to James T. Kirk's son David Marcus from Star Trek II.
I also like the fact that they really seem to be leaning into the one decent TNG feature film, Star Trek: First Contact. Terry Matalas seems to be taking elements from the best of the TOS and TNG feature films.
I guess what I really enjoy is the fact that the old TNG paradigm of no conflict between Starfleet characters/ everyone being psychologically well adjusted is nowhere to be seen.
All the characters are acting like relatable human beings; and the universe itself isn't so clean or clear-cut. And the Federation has access to and still uses money.
If TNG had been written like this back in 1987, I really would have enjoyed it. I'm sure this aspect is driving some of the old time TNG fans crazy; but I love it and I hope it continues. Very much looking forward to episode 2.
Terry Matalas may indeed be a TNG era fan, but he sure as Hell seems to have decided to put the TNG cast and Universe through a TOS feature film era filter. <--- and so far this TOS era fan loves it.
The opening slate to the episode is straight out of Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, and the episode borrowed a hell of a lot from that film.
The Titan exiting space dock scene is also a call back to the scene of the refit 1701 being piloted out of space stock by Lieutenant Savik. I did love the ribbing and quips between Riker and Picard in that scene; and about the only thing missing to really put a bow on it would have been Riker Picard asking seven of nine if she'd ever piloted of spaceship out of space dock before.
I mean they're all wondering why Beverly cut them all off 20 years ago; and low iand behold, when Picard and Riker finally make it to her ship, they find a 19-20 year-old son (who is obviously the result of Picard and Beverly's attempt to have a romantic relationship).
The character is obviously a call back to James T. Kirk's son David Marcus from Star Trek II.
I also like the fact that they really seem to be leaning into the one decent TNG feature film, Star Trek: First Contact. Terry Matalas seems to be taking elements from the best of the TOS and TNG feature films.
I guess what I really enjoy is the fact that the old TNG paradigm of no conflict between Starfleet characters/ everyone being psychologically well adjusted is nowhere to be seen.
All the characters are acting like relatable human beings; and the universe itself isn't so clean or clear-cut. And the Federation has access to and still uses money.
If TNG had been written like this back in 1987, I really would have enjoyed it. I'm sure this aspect is driving some of the old time TNG fans crazy; but I love it and I hope it continues. Very much looking forward to episode 2.
With the Garrett statue I’m really hoping that leads to that certain fan theory being correct.
Beverly told Picard not to go to starfleet. There is probably a infiltration at starfleet along the lines of "Conspiracy". Lore may have even orchestrated something.
TMP was considered to be a continuation of TOS where it left off at "Turnabout Intruder", so the whole movie is technically fanwank.
That's not really a fair place to start throwing that term around.
Bringing back Khan was really the moment that the Producers actually went for the Full- Monty so-to-speak.
What fan theory? I'm assuming it has something to do with Laris?
I really loved that they have brought back the LCARS 100%. I have always loved the look of it. They kept the glass touch panels and made them curved from the wall. I hope we see more. So it looks like a natural advance from 36 years ago. Still LCARS but more advanced. So much more beautiful than that programmable matter crap they threw at us in discovery. Yuck.
Heh ... Perhaps you haven't been paying attention the last few months when the main producer was practically shouting to the rafters that this season was going to be all about Nostalgia.
And the title of the very first episode is called "The Next Generation", that alone should have given you a massive clue as to what to expect.
I think perhaps if that is how you are going to judge this season, then you are going to be very disappointed.
Translation: "I'm not creative enough to write a story that stands on its own merit. Look and listen to these things that remind you of your childhood."
Yeah, I thought mystery guy had something to do with the conspiracy because didn't he drop an Ent-C model into his drink when Riker and Picard leave? It was dark so I couldn't really tell if it was -C or -D but if it was the -C then it and the Rachel Garrett statue make me think this conspiracy has something to do with Yesterday's Enterprise.
