Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

[Commander K]

Over diluted with fan service I must say...
Bit patchworky , almost a best of past star treks, feels a bit like Trek 3, the reveal of the shrike feels like reveal of the scimitar and new titan captain will guaranteed be a fan favourite by the end of the season, you can see he is going to kick ass and help them in the next episode. Otherwise keeping the plot simple helps. Gave it a 7.5/10

 

[Campe]

Likely, the terrorists that Raffi is chasing down are connected to Vadic and the big threat this season.

Or are there multiple threats?

Looking forward to when Shaw dies.

Or in the grand tradition of drama, Shaw ends up being a foil turned ally and we end up loving the guy, just for him to sacrifice himself in the end.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

The poster that pops up on Raffi’s screen says Starfleet.

I thought you meant the pre-rendered cutscenes.
Either way nothing in this episode looked anything like bridge commander.

At best it looks like what you'd get from a properly modded installation of Bridge Commander with the superior fan-made ships. But it still looked video game-esque, and I'm hardly alone in that observation.

This shot was one of the most glaring.

 

[Anduinel]

I'm pretty sure Captain Shaw pointed out that Admiral Picard was a "... former Ex-Borg ..." rather disdainfully during their dinner conversation.
Captain Riker even called Shaw out for the not-so-shaded insult toward the Admiral.

Plus his pressuring Seven to use an identity she's not comfortable with because he prefers it.

 

[bookworm8571]

If it's the 250th anniversary of the founding of the Federation itself, 2411 would need to be the year assuming 2161 is the correct founding year.

Quite a time jump then. That would make more sense given Ed Speleers’ age and the time it took for Seven to attain her rank, though I assume Shaw had to have picked her as his first officer or assented to keeping her on and he’s being a bit of a jerk to her.

 

[The Commander]

Here's the M'Talas explanation:

 

[Commander K]

Shaw will be the 25th Century Pike, a lovable rogue!

 

[gvn2fly]

One of the issues I had with this compared to the Season 1 and 2 openers is there's not a compelling character arc for Picard - he's pretty much doing well with Laris and then the plot drags him along.

In comparison, Season 1 and 2 - even if they were poorly executed - telegraphed Jean Luc's character arc well from the first episode. Season 1 was about Picard overcoming his bitterness and isolation, and Season 2, about his fear of commitment.

Which works for me as the last season of the show. Even by the end of Season 1 I felt like Picard had "found himself" again. Others complained that Picard wasn't the way he was in TNG in season 1, but I actually liked that things had happened that had made him bitter and depressed, and then over the course of the season, he becomes the man we remembered again.

 

[Tiberius Jim]

The Ready Room episode is up, along with a quick preview of Episode 2.

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The name of the shuttle...fascinating.

 

[fireproof78]

At best it looks like what you'd get from a properly modded installation of Bridge Commander with the superior fan-made ships. But it still looked video game-esque, and I'm hardly alone in that observation.

This shot was one of the most glaring.

Beautiful ship.

 

[Saul]

Good episode but it's difficult to fully judge it since it feels like part of a larger episode/movie.

Lots of TWOK vibes, Beverly is Carol Marcus and her son is like David Marcus who tries to get the drop on Picard and Riker similar to how David tried to get the drop on Kirk.

Mention of an assassination of someone in the Tal shiar. Links to the current villain? Maybe it was Sela who was assassinated?

Shaw is an asshole. A very well played asshole.I hope he sticks around.

I don't get the neo constitution aesthetic but whatever.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Yikes

This wasn't "a lot of member berries" it was "Let's cram as much nostalgia bait in to every scene that we can for a whole hour." But underneath all that pandering was a plot/story that was nothing more than what you'd find in an airport gift shop paperback.

But I was done in the first few minutes. Here's the deal: they knew going into this they were doing the whole getting the band back together thing. And within that frame they had a complete blank slate to work from -- essentially infinite possibilities. And what they chose to go with sees the character who took the Hippocratic oath kill two people -- in a rather brutal manner -- with in the first few minutes. Not use her brain to pacify or placate them (God forbid we actually show a smart woman use her brain for once); kill them. I am now on board with 'it's not Star Trek' people. Nothing about that is Star Trek.

I can hear the argument in my head:

Character of the week: "I was protecting my son. I had no choice!"

Dr. Crusher: "You could have rerouted the hyper endothermic cascade array though the multiphasic proton field and knocked them out. You didn't have to kill them!"

Now, I fully admit it's entirely possible that there will be some kind of payoff in the future, and they address this. I mean, what would be a more Star Trek thing to do than to advocate for finding a better way than picking up a gun in a world rife with violence and literally daily shootings in the US? But I'm certainly not going to hold my breath.

The music -- the space dock sequence in particular -- perfectly encompasses everything wrong with new Trek They took three (four?) classic cues and just smashed them together. While each is fantastic on its own. I can guarantee that to any outside observer with no prior emotional attachment to them, it's just a garbled sonic mess. And that's what the franchise has become: an a la carte buffet of "Star Trek things," offering nothing original. And even whizing Disco into the far distance future didn't fix this.

Also, tip for Jon Frakes: "Be yourself" applies to dating, not acting.

I don't really know what score to give. There's nothing 'bad' about it per se. (Other than the Bev shot first.) It's just more uninspired and hackneyed mediocrity stuffed into an expensive-looking package, just like all the rest. I'm just so fed up with being fed nothing but this same plate of heaping pandering over and over again. What I don't understand is why more people aren't.

 

[gvn2fly]

Here's the M'Talas explanation:

I think its hilarious that people on this thread who don't even know the guy were trying to say Matalas was a horrible boss just because of that planet name.

 

[DaveyNY]

This shot was one of the most glaring.

I'm gonna guess the device you watched the show on is the culprit here.
This is what I see on my 65" HD TV ...

BTW: Anybody else notice the California Class in the background.

 

[Tuskin38]

The read room this week does have some close up shots of some of the props on Bev's ship

And what they chose to go with sees the character who took the Hippocratic oath kill two people -- in a rather brutal manner -- with in the first few minutes. Not use her brain to pacify or placate them (God forbid we actually show a smart woman use her brain for once); kill them.

Because they'd been hunting them for a long time according to the dialogue, if there was a way to reason with them, they would have tried already.

I'm just so fed up with being fed nothing but this same plate of heaping pandering over and over again.

This is the first thing I'd call pandering in like 18 years.

BTW: Anybody else notice the California Class in the background.

That wasn't a California Class.

 

[fireproof78]

What I don't understand is why more people aren't.

Because it's safe.

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I am here to see the Next Generation crew in action again. I lost interest in the story when it became clear that this is yet another conspiracy. Revenge and conspiracy are my two least favorite genres.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Because they'd been hunting them for a long time according to the dialogue, if there was a way to reason with them, they would have tried already.

Obvious straw man is obvious and skips the preface of the argument entirely

 

[gvn2fly]

I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but why would Beverly's coded message go to Picard's old communicator instead of coded through his regular home communication system (but still encrypted)? I mean if Picard wasn't in the process of moving he would have missed the message. Beverly had the computer send the message to Admiral Picard, so why was it processed through the Enterprise D communicator?

 

[Tiberius Jim]

I'm gonna guess the device you watched the show on is the culprit here.
This is what I see on my 65" HD TV ...

The "device" has nothing to do with it. It looks just as mediocre on my 4K TV as it does on my QHD computer display. The screen it's viewed on isn't going to make that much of a difference.