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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x01 - "The Next Generation"

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I just think its more people aren't used to Riker talking to Picard that way, but this has been how Frakes has played Riker for a long time even going back to the jokes he was making when they rescued Worf in First Contact..
Not at all. In my case, it was some things he said to other characters.

Maybe. On the other hand, Terry Matalas has said that some elements from DS9 would appear this season. What if her handler is a DS9 character (other than Worf)?
Oh, what a perfect way that would be to bring back Garak! Alas, I'd bet it's Worf.
 
So since Crusher says trust nobody, are we dealing with Shapeshifters or a Cult that has infiltrated Star Fleet?

Or the critters from "Conspiracy"...? They deserved a follow-up...

Light!!! Light the sets!!!!!

Light the GD SETS! I want to see things!!!!
Ugh, I hate Raffi, what am I watching?!

What is this?! I feel like I'm getting nose hairs plucked by vice grips!

Is the ship set darker here than when 1701-D was in "Generations"? Are there any screencaps?

I wonder if this "trust nobody at Starfleet" will have a payoff better than "Conspiracy", not that it would take much - tasty neon-dayglo-80s purple shellfish scuttling around everywhere was a bit cheesy, making up for how awesome the mind-controlled personnel were, which was pretty solidly done overall... we've seen the "evil admiral" trope before, but reuse isn't an insta-fail. If it's done better, that's great. Don't tell anyone, but I prefer when Gallifrey was destroyed by the Master (they did it earlier with a big army of ten zillion Daleks, but the Master made it all more personal.)
 
Re: Shaw:

So apparently it’s being set up for the audience to not like him because of the way he treats the ‘heroes.’ This screams Jellico, a character created for the exact same reason. Except, just like Jellico, this is unwarranted because he’s actually a good officer. Personal bias on his part aside, his ship is being illegally appropriated by Riker and Picard, and another member of his crew whom he doesn’t seem to care for is helping them. He has every right to be angry. And who wants to bet that he’s gonna wind up dead because of all this? But it’s ok because he was mean to Seven, Riker and Picard. I find that just a bit annoying.
I feel like we are supposed to dislike him, however, I feel like he will redeem himself soon…..and might just live to fight another day.
 
I've found the idea of hating victims of the Borg somewhat forced at times, though I do understand humans are irrational beings especially when dealing with traumatic loss. And maybe it's the same thing, just less directly stated, but I always thought, were I in the situation of a survivor of Locutus/Wolf 359, it wouldn't be Picard having been enslaved and forced to murder his comrades that would make me hate him. It would be that he survived, while thousands of others died. That somehow, despite the fact that anyone else would have marked Picard as basically dead when he was assimilated, that Enterprise and its crew, and its then-captain, Riker, somehow managed to destroy that ship and rescue Picard, and yet my loved one(s) couldn't be saved. Not that that would be rational either, but less hating someone for being a fellow victim, but whose special status exempted them from so many others' fate.
 
Well, for the first time in 20 year I have finally seen a continuation of the 24th century Star Trek I grew up with. My friends, we are in the future… ‘the undiscovered country’. Anyone who says other wise will get a warning for trolling.

Luckily, I do not mod this forum so troll away… all that I can do in return is smite you :p

I will post a review when I have managed to compose myself, this was some mighty fine Trek with a lot of subtle depth. :techman:

One final set of words though - hands off Seven, Captain Shaw. :mad:

Seven of Nine is obviously being bullied (indirectly or not) by her commanding officer and might not want a spin-off after these bad experiences. Seven may be quite happy with the quiet life and prefer to go Bonnie and Clyde with Raffi. I think that this Captain Shaw guy will redeem himself though and does not necessarily have malicious intent, but wow he sure is making Seven hate her job. Seven is Annika’s identity, a name that all of those that have loved her since she left the collective have referred to her by… this is why she prefers the name Seven. I believe that Captain Shaw may be trying to force his idea of humanity on to Seven by trying to impose her given ‘human’ name back on to her, with his prejudices against ex Borg being quite apparent. I do not think that Shaw is necessarily a bad guy, but his enforcement of his ideaologies on to others against their wishes is definitely an indirect form of harassment.

Shaw did the right thing standing up to Picard and Riker though, even though he was wrong, lol.
 
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Nothing on his IMDB. Is he a model as well or something like that ?
He's certainly pretty enough. From what I could find, he finished a part for a game that came out in 2022. Otherwise, I don't see much going on. That's fine, though, he's in his mid 20s, so he's just getting warmed up, I think.
 
I didn't love it.

Really don't like the way the show looks. Overly dark, messy space visuals, and bad CGI (the ships look fake).

A lot of the problems Kurtzmen Trek has are still there, but toned down. The modern vernacular and character interactions aren't as bad as they were previously but are still an issue for me.

That said, it is an improvement. There's a focused and compelling story developing here, and I do want to see what happens next. So I'm on board.
 
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Andrew Robinson said at Vegas last year that he has retired from acting since his wife isn’t very well and he has become a full time career. I doubt he will make an appearance
Very sorry to hear that. Last I saw him was reading slash fanfic with Alexander Siddig a couple of years ago.
 
I've found the idea of hating victims of the Borg somewhat forced at times, though I do understand humans are irrational beings especially when dealing with traumatic loss. And maybe it's the same thing, just less directly stated, but I always thought, were I in the situation of a survivor of Locutus/Wolf 359, it wouldn't be Picard having been enslaved and forced to murder his comrades that would make me hate him. It would be that he survived, while thousands of others died. That somehow, despite the fact that anyone else would have marked Picard as basically dead when he was assimilated, that Enterprise and its crew, and its then-captain, Riker, somehow managed to destroy that ship and rescue Picard, and yet my loved one(s) couldn't be saved. Not that that would be rational either, but less hating someone for being a fellow victim, but whose special status exempted them from so many others' fate.

It was better introduced through Sisko because at least you saw him lose his wife and presumably many friends on the Saratoga. Unless there's some Instagram post or comic or something, I have no idea why Shaw is a jackass.

Like, even if you hate the Picard, he literally just saved the Galaxy again working with the Borg in S2... so what the hell?
 
It was better introduced through Sisko because at least you saw him lose his wife and presumably many friends on the Saratoga. Unless there's some Instagram post or comic or something, I have no idea why Shaw is a jackass.

Like, even if you hate the Picard, he literally just saved the Galaxy again working with the Borg in S2... so what the hell?
I'm sure it will be explained in later episodes.
 
I didn't love it.

Really don't like the way the show looks. Overly dark, messy space visuals, and cheap ship CGI.

A lot of the problems Kurtzmen Trek has are still there, but toned down. The modern vernacular and character interactions aren't as bad as they were previously but are still an issue for me.

That said, it is an improvement. There's a focused and compelling story developing here, and I do want to see what happens next. So I'm on board.
Yeah the visuals while much better than the first two seasons still need some work. It is much too dark. They are using neon strips to light the bridge set. Poor choice. I do like the updated lcars but overall ship design seems to have gone backwards since the D. The saucers look more like TMP at times. To clunky. The language is a bit better. The 20th/21st century vernacular of the last two seasons was getting on my nerves. If I heard one more character use the word "hubris" with the F word attached i was going to tear my hair out. Lol
 
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Why would studio executives care if Laris goes back in time with them?
Unknown. This comes from either Terry Matalas' first interview with Robert Meyer Burnett or the Inglorious Treksperts.

I wonder if this might be because Chabon created Laris, and otherwise they would have to pay him residuals all season?

Ditto for Soji and Elnor.
He's credited as a co-creator of PICARD, so that would be split with Akiva Goldsman, Alex Kurtzman, and Kirsten Beyer. Interestingly enough, Chabon doesn't get a sinecure "executive consultant" credit like Bryan Fuller did with DISCOVERY, or Michael Pillar and Jeri Taylor got with DS9 / VGR.

I've got my doubts that a Trek project would be anything but work-for-hire, even when signing a prestigious name like Chabon. It seems more likely that Matalas had his own story in mind and didn't care about finding room for most of the previous cast.
Apparently he had the idea for the basic story years ago.
 
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