Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread
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Horner had a Klingon theme? Or did you mean Goldsmith's, from TMP?
And did he say we'll know it by the end...? So the E reveal, whatever it is, will be at the end?
No he just means it will be explained during the season.And did he say we'll know it by the end...? So the E reveal, whatever it is, will be at the end?
Jerry Goldsmith's musical scores are timeless. But I think James Horner's TWOK and TSFS themes sound very '80s space opera. I'm sure they'll make it work, but I hope it sounds more 2023 than 1983.
then we'd know before the end
Very brief new interview with Patrick Stewart. Does contain spoilers about the status of Picard/Crusher's relationship.
Yep, source on Stashwick's character's name is RMB, who is now saying he's seen the season for a third time.
Meanwhile, the WGA has released their December Star Trek Writer's Panel on YouTube.
Terry Matalas and Christopher Derrick (who was a staff writer on seasons 2 and 3) participate. Just watch Terry's face when executive interference and getting notes comes up, and he talks about how different regimes greatly impacted what made it to the screen. One potential season 3 spoiler via an idea they didn't get to include (the Vulcan psychiatric planet).
Some really cool interplay between Matalas and Brannon Braga as well.
That’s not really new, Matalas has hinted at “interference from the studio” (or words to that effect) regarding PIC’s second season on a few occasions, most notable example being how the studio seems to have insisted that the Trek timeline should be our timeline regardless of the obvious discrepancies that previous canon established. He can’t be too open and specific of course tho - he’s still under contract, his tune regarding season 3 right now is often (and pretty much HAS to be) “Paramount has been great”.
However, I expect a lot more candid interviews at some point in the future. Might take a while, but it’s gonna happen.
However, I expect a lot more candid interviews at some point in the future. Might take a while, but it’s gonna happen.
One thing I really admire about Picard season 2 is how they managed to maintain prior continuity through Easter eggs and flying under the radar. Well, minus Guinan / Times Arrow smh.
Likely he has a ten year NDA a la Bryan Fuller. But if all the interference had to fall on the time travel with no real stakes season, and the season with all the TNG characters back in what is likely to be the final chance to have them all... well, I'm glad it was season 2 that fell on that sword. I'm really really hoping Matalas has a chance to do a The Next Next Generation series following up all the Berman Trek 24th century threads.
"I’m excited about [how Season 3] deals with the Next Generation cast saying goodbye to Star Trek. I know that’s going to mean a great deal to fans."
"I’m excited about [how Season 3] deals with the Next Generation cast saying goodbye to Star Trek. I know that’s going to mean a great deal to fans."
For now ...
For now ...
I really understand they have to hype things up but the whole “one day we say this is goodbye and the next day we say that it might not be and then we go back to saying it’s goodbye” thing isn’t helping very much. I don’t know who planned this marketing strategy - it’s one thing to keep stuff ambiguous but this can easily turn into “this verbal ping-pong is getting annoying”. I realize that they’re trying to say “if the fans really like this, who knows what might happen” (Goldsman said this from the very beginning, he said that the show’s made for three seasons, but who knows, if Sir Patrick wants to we can have a fourth season, and Sir Patrick himself said the same thing, “I’d have to think about it” were his words, I believe) but not everybody reads or sees all the interviews. In fact, most people read maybe one or two headlines. And to those people confusion reigns over what the deal is now.
And the showrunner actively speaks against some of what the cast members are saying. Matalas talked about it very briefly in that interview with Trek Central - he basically said that “one or two” of the cast members “might have been projecting” and named Leonard Nimoy coming back from Spock’s death (in a movie) as the example they’re projecting. I’m guessing he was trying to say “hey some of you guys’ characters die at the end of season 3, we’d need movie time to bring you back first”. Matalas never seems to like the idea much, maybe because he thinks it would diminish his work or something. I can partly see that - he made a final season for the TNG characters. A final goodbye. To then have the cast members be like “oh haha just kidding that wasn’t goodbye, maybe we can make a movie” at various conventions and in interviews must rattle his cage a little.
IIRC, hints were dropped suggesting that while TNG as a crew is ending, individual characters may reappear in other places in their current timeframe... Macfadden at least.
I actually want to have that as a poster!
The new sword seems to be a long meqleH with a hole at the end, perhaps for the other hand
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