I'd say Discovery is pretty successful, what with the 5 seasons, and ushering in a new era of Trek. Now we got more Trek for more fans.
Section 31: I hope it still happens.
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Given the length of the first four seasons, even with just a 10 episode 5th season it's closer to 3 full seasons of Star Trek Enterprise, but yeah it's got to do at least four more seasons to get close to the 98 episodes that ENT aired.
Well...I guess that's it then...
Why not? She’s seemed eager to come back to Georgiou in the past, and this would be her coming back for a series she’d be the star of. Hell, if anything, all the accolades she’s getting these days make it all the more likely that Paramount would WANT to find a way to get her as a headliner for a series on their streaming platform, get that buzz.
Can I say for sure it’s going forward? No, of course not. But I still say it’s reasonable to expect that we’ll see something - If they were waiting for Picard to wrap to move forward with the active development of a new series, I’d wager we’ll hear something around First Contact Day what’s next on the docket. It might not be the Georgiou spinoff, but it might be as well.
I mean, anything's possible. But few actors who achieve the level of film success Yeoh is enjoying recently tend to be willing to move back to television, especially if it's not prestige television. It's generally considered a career backslide to do that.
I’m really keen to see the Section 31 series get made. It’s been an intriguing piece of Trek lore since DS9 introduced the concept. Just from an emotional connection, having Michelle Yeoh’s Emperor Georgiou in the series would be a great hook. But for me, Section 31 has been used in other branches of the Trek franchise I’d think that it wouldn’t necessarily be a requirement for her to be in it. Buuuut, it would really be awesome if she was.
That extremely trustworthy and not made up silliness at all site Giant Freakin Robot says Alexander Siddig is back for Lower Decks season 3 and a lead role in Section 31.
Oh man. Seriously? I hope this is not true. What about the Ash Tyler/Voq character? I had hoped for a "Section 31" series with both Philippa Georgiou and Ash Tyler . . . or at least Tyler. I'm just not interested in another tale about Julian Bashir and Section 31.
While I also imagined the show being Ash Tyler and Georgiou (and I'm sure that was the original plan), if they're looking to adapt the Bashir/Section 31 novels (their version of Control is the most amazing and subversive thing in the Trekverse), it'll do as an alternative.
I’m mean…Bashir showing up in Lower Decks is plausible.
Hm, I didn't like mirror Georgiou on DSC at all, and it really bothered me that nobody seemed to care she was a genocidal tyrant of the Khan Noonian Singh or Gul Dukat caliber, eating Kelpians and so on ... Burnham apparently didn't even see a difference between her and prime Georgiou. How stupid is Burnham supposed to be? That was a major point for me to be alienated from DSC. Also, perhaps mirror Georgious snarkyness was supposed to be cool, but I just found it utterly annoying.
So I don't have the slightest interest in a Section 31 series, if mirror Georgiou is leading it. If they pull Alexander Siddig's Bashir out of the hat, on the other hand, I might be intrigued.
But at any rate, they should handle the topic appropriately. On DS9 and ENT, Section 31 was portrayed as ambivalent, at best. These shows had an awareness of the moral ambiguity of that organization. If a Section 31 show was lacking that, and dropped the moral angle in favor of "whoa cool", "how snarky" and "toxic is the new cool", I couldn't care less about it.
So I don't have the slightest interest in a Section 31 series, if mirror Georgiou is leading it. If they pull Alexander Siddig's Bashir out of the hat, on the other hand, I might be intrigued.
But at any rate, they should handle the topic appropriately. On DS9 and ENT, Section 31 was portrayed as ambivalent, at best. These shows had an awareness of the moral ambiguity of that organization. If a Section 31 show was lacking that, and dropped the moral angle in favor of "whoa cool", "how snarky" and "toxic is the new cool", I couldn't care less about it.
Guess I just didn't buy what was shown. Overall, I felt the characterization, especially of Burnham, was very poor and aimless in DSC. I got the impression the authors had no idea what Burnham was supposed to be, hero or antihero, self-righteous self-absorbed egotist or responsible leader, Mary Sue or unstable crybaby. It really appeared totally random to me.
And I don't remember having seen anything from Georgiou that would make up for her being a genocidal Kelpian-eating tyrant, much like Khan or Dukat -- certainly nothing that would explain why the crew mourned her going, after she had constantly insulted everybody on top of being a mass murderer.
But I guess it's a good thing we all have different views and each of us likes different shows, IDIC and so on. DSC maybe just isn't for me.
I agree with 99% of everything you wrote: I did like the concept that Burnham was "blinded" by her devotion to Prime Georgiou and her personal sense she had failed her captain. (Not that it was carried off that well, just that the idea was good.)
Also, only Bashir and rightfully acknowledging how anti-Federation ideals 31 is, are the only things keeping me interested at all.
I agree with this too. But my personal impression of Burnham is that while the show creators or showrunners knew what they wanted to do with her (redemption arc, moving from almost-vulcan to human, arc to a captaincy, etc.), It was again a question of execution. Different writers writing different episodes and different crews executing different seasons results in a lot of inconsistencies. And Discovery tries to do too much at all times such that things like properly earned character development and coherent storylines can't really be achieved.
While I was thinking of a 23rd century version, anything that brings back anyone from DS9 I'm all for. So if this is how the plan is evolving to compensate for Michelle Yeoh not being available it'll work. But, since we don't know exactly when Georgiou was sent to, a series with her and Alexander Siddig would probably fall under "Must See TV" for me.
Update: Siddig's official fan-run Twitter account says it's bunk.
