DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[DigificWriter]

And I thought some of his narrative beats had come straight from 2016's "Suicide Squad"

Which was also rooted in the same tonal aesthetic as Man of Steel.

Man of Steel established a tonal aesthetic framework within which every subsequent filmmaker has stayed whilst at the same time applying their own stylistic approach to the material on offer, and it is the latter point that elevates the overall slate of films that comprise the DCEU above the vast majority of the films that comprise the MCU (IMO).

 

[Kai "the spy"]

First poster for "Blue Beetle"

Release date given as August 18.

So, next year's line-up currently looks like this:

- SHAZAM! Fury of the Gods; March 17
- The Flash; June 23
- Blue Beetle; August 18
- Aquaman & the Lost Kingdom; December 25

Of course, knowing WB these days, there's gonna be some changes to the schedule.

 

[Dee1891]

Which was also rooted in the same tonal aesthetic as Man of Steel.

Man of Steel established a tonal aesthetic framework within which every subsequent filmmaker has stayed whilst at the same time applying their own stylistic approach to the material on offer, and it is the latter point that elevates the overall slate of films that comprise the DCEU above the vast majority of the films that comprise the MCU (IMO).

I'm sorry but I didn't see or noticed that in "The Suicide Squad". I only recall the 2021 movie copying a good deal of narrative beats from the 2016 film, while everyone was declaring it superior. An opinion I never agreed with.

 

[JD]

Refresh my memory but isn't Blue Beetle portrayed as similar to Venom these days? Alien armor/enhancer bonded to a human and the story is about them co-existing as one?

Pretty much.

Is the scarab armor sentient? I thought it was more of an alien version of Iron Man's suits

 

[Nerys Myk]

Is the scarab armor sentient? I thought it was more of an alien version of Iron Man's suits

Jaime talks to it and it talks back. It's also tried to take over Jaime on occasion, IIRC

 

[JD]

Oh, OK I don't have much experience with the character. I've seen him on a couple shows like Smallville and Young Justice, but I haven't watched them in a while and couldn't remember for sure what the scarab was like.

 

[Anwar]

Oh, OK I don't have much experience with the character. I've seen him on a couple shows like Smallville and Young Justice, but I haven't watched them in a while and couldn't remember for sure what the scarab was like.

The Scarab Armor being alive and sentient is a more recent development IIRC, it wasn't happening when Smallville was on.

I doubt we'll get anything like this though:

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[DigificWriter]

Jaime Reyes debuted as the Blue Beetle in DC Comics in April 2006 (whilst Smallville was in the midst of its 5th season).

The Smallville episode "Booster", which featured Jaime, aired in April 2011, so the Blue Beetle Scared was very much being portrayed as a piece of sentient alien technology in the comics by the time that the Blue Beetle character made his live-action television debut.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Which was also rooted in the same tonal aesthetic as Man of Steel.

Man of Steel established a tonal aesthetic framework within which every subsequent filmmaker has stayed whilst at the same time applying their own stylistic approach to the material on offer

Considering how much you-know-who was involved in bringing Wonder Woman to the screen, its no wonder that tonal aesthetic effectively shaped and linked WW (along with the story, obviously) to MoS/BvS to make one of the best examples of coherence and reasons-to-be in any superhero film series.

and it is the latter point that elevates the overall slate of films that comprise the DCEU above the vast majority of the films that comprise the MCU (IMO).

Undoubtedly.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Release date given as August 18.

So, next year's line-up currently looks like this:

- SHAZAM! Fury of the Gods; March 17
- The Flash; June 23
- Blue Beetle; August 18
- Aquaman & the Lost Kingdom; December 25

Of course, knowing WB these days, there's gonna be some changes to the schedule.

Already out of date; The Flash has been moved to a week earlier, June 16.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Looks like Black Adam hasn’t lived up to financial expectations https://trib.al/K5IEKtj?fbclid=IwAR3F9ofN48yc9Vq1XP0F8eXvNUJWZqtwBE_yTL6n8D_j2uh5AbL875HUSKQ

 

[Rich Watson]

Looks like Black Adam hasn’t lived up to financial expectations https://trib.al/K5IEKtj?fbclid=IwAR3F9ofN48yc9Vq1XP0F8eXvNUJWZqtwBE_yTL6n8D_j2uh5AbL875HUSKQ

Has Dwayne ever starred in a really successful film where he was the main character and not part of an ensemble a la F&F/Jumanji?

 

[Saul]

There are positives and negatives. It opened better than it expected. It reached 100 million faster than any other DC movie since Aquaman.
Budget seems to be an issue. The Rock also doesn't have the global status he has in the US.
The Rock will be back as Black Adam. They'd be crazy to throw away what they set up at the end of the movie. What DC sees here is the potential. The movie is successful enough to build on. The James Gunn era starts from 2024. Imagine where he will take these characters.

 

[Rich Watson]

The Rock will be back as Black Adam. They'd be crazy to throw away what they set up at the end of the movie. What DC sees here is the potential. The movie is successful enough to build on.

If Gunn is to be successful he has to sweep everything away and start with a clean slate. You can't build something that works on the remnants of all the stuff that didn't work.

 

[Christopher]

You can't build something that works on the remnants of all the stuff that didn't work.

Sure you can. The first season or two of Star Trek: The Next Generation were highly flawed, but it became a much better show from its third season onward. The first Mission: Impossible feature film was mediocre and the second terrible, but every one from the third onward has been terrific. The original X-Men comics were considered one of Stan Lee & Jack Kirby's more middling achievements, but then Claremont & Byrne gave them a fresh start in the '80s and they became one of Marvel's most enduring successes -- and the equivalent thing happened with the Teen Titans at DC at the same time. There are plenty of instances of series that started out weak and then got good while still building on what came before.

I mean, that's the nature of a lot of human achievement and creativity, after all -- we start out imperfect and learn to do better. It makes no sense to say that the only way to do something good is to make it good from the start. "The stuff that didn't work" is what we learn from so that we can do it better.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Has Dwayne ever starred in a really successful film where he was the main character and not part of an ensemble a la F&F/Jumanji?

The Rock also doesn't have the global status he has in the US.

I looked it up and his most successful movies that meet that criteria are San Andreas and Rampage both which have made more than Black Adam with worldwide box office. Also, those movies made twice as much overseas as domestically so I'm not sure he doesn't have that global status.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

If Gunn is to be successful he has to sweep everything away and start with a clean slate. You can't build something that works on the remnants of all the stuff that didn't work.

I seriously doubt that will happen, and it would be a terrible mistake. The DCEU built their own identity (thankfully), and established a solid universe which its supporters were and are fully invested in. That collective are not at all interested in seeing the best representations of DC comic characters / stories on film dumped and / or plots completely ignored. DC will do well to continue to build on events, then branch off into new stories--typical of the comic source. Further, Superman is a major lynchpoin to films going forward, since he's back in the established continuity, tied to a number of films yet to be released (and is not going to suddenly flip to some other version with no background (or have yet another origin explored).

 

[Kai "the spy"]

My guess is, with the budget they banked on a Chinese release and successful run, since the Chinese audience has shown they love colorful superheroes and Dwayne Johnson. When there was no Chinese release, that hurt the movie.

Also, the timing of the release in late October hurt the movie's box office. Especially with the highly anticipated Black Panther 2 being released only two weeks later. If you look at this year's July/August/September, it was a lot less crowded with big tentpole movies, so the movie could have done way better with a release at that time.

 

[Saul]

If Gunn is to be successful he has to sweep everything away and start with a clean slate. You can't build something that works on the remnants of all the stuff that didn't work.

But a lot of it did work. Even if it's not to everyone's taste. Aquaman and Wonder Woman had a lot of success. It seems like they will be building on what is established already.

 

[Rich Watson]

They need to pick a Batman, singular. They need a Superman who bears some resemblance to the character. (Not someone who works for Amanda Waller, for one thing.) They need a Wonder Woman who doesn't have sex with men without their consent. There's more that needs fixing than doesn't.