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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x13 - "All the World's a Stage"

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It's an animated series with extremely high production values, originality, and a compelling storyline. Calling it a 'cartoon' in that manner is a bit of an insult to the people who work on that show.
How is calling it a cartoon an insult? That's what it is.
I call all animated series cartoons. 2D, 3D, children focused, adult focused whatever.

Anywho, the Galileo in this episode was not the 'Galileo II', at least it didn't say that on the hull, it only said Galileo.

The Enterprise had a second Galileo in TOS without 'II' in the name before the one with 'II', probably from reused footage and not wanting to make a new model. This is probably it, considering the first was destroyed. The Galileo II then replaced the one in this episode.
 
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How is calling it a cartoon an insult? That's what it is.
I call all animated series cartoons. 2D, 3D, children focused, adult focused whatever.

Because you were brushing off @NCC-73515 's comment about "some 60s stuff that would never ever be shown in a 2022 production" as if showing it in a cartoon is somehow not as valid as showing it in a live-action production.
 
Because you were brushing off @NCC-73515 's comment about "some 60s stuff that would never ever be shown in a 2022 production" as if showing it in a cartoon is somehow not as valid as showing it in a live-action production.
To many people it is not. Cartoons/animation existed in a heightened state of reality and are allowed more freedom to show different visuals, both older and exaggerated, in telling their stories.

Those people were more correct about the TOS era than Discovery and SNW. :)
Technically correct. The best kind of correct!
 
Much better than the first two episodes this season (er, half-season) though there's still a critical issue with the episode that stops me from having full enjoyment.

I'll start with the negative first - the Federation cargo cult the kids discover makes absolutely no sense! In principle it's a great idea (particularly with how they get things confused over a century) but unless I'm misremembering things, Ensign Garrovick only lived a few months before passing away. Most of his equipment was stowed away in a ship with a toxic plasma leak other than his uniform and phaser. I can see how the natives were exposed to stories of the Federation, but how the heck did they come to know how 23rd Century Federation tech worked well enough to fly with the holo-controls???

That said, otherwise this was a highly enjoyable plot-focused episode which took the story in some unexpected directions. It was much more of an ensemble piece than a character-focused episode, but both Dal and Jankom Pog got some good development here, moving away from selfishness and insecurities and more towards Starfleet ideals. Once the natives got away from just doing TOS character impressions and became real people it was actually a pretty interesting take. While arguably this is a bit too early to do another nostalgia trip episode (Kobayashi wasn't that long ago) I think the effective third act more than made up for the initial pandering to fanservice.

In his log, Garrovick said he salvaged equipment from the wreck and brought it back to the village to teach them. We see them with view screens and such — maybe there was a damaged manual as well, which I would totally buy all shuttles are equipped with.
 
Wow, that was so much better than I imagined when the season trailer showed all those "green shirts".

Lower Decks isn't the only show that can give us some easter eggs.

A Galileo 7, Garrovick, the holo-Connie bridge consoles. Tho, shouldn't it have been the Galileo II? Could anyone see the name clearly? Unless they played on the goof that the Galileo I appeared after it was destroyed.
 
A Galileo 7, Garrovick, the holo-Connie bridge consoles. Tho, shouldn't it have been the Galileo II? Could anyone see the name clearly? Unless they played on the goof that the Galileo I appeared after it was destroyed.
Tuskin had some observations on this:
Anywho, the Galileo in this episode was not the 'Galileo II', at least it didn't say that on the hull, it only said Galileo.

The Enterprise had a second Galileo in TOS without 'II' in the name before the one with 'II', probably from reused footage and not wanting to make a new model. This is probably it, considering the first was destroyed. The Galileo II then replaced the one in this episode.
 
Wow, that was so much better than I imagined when the season trailer showed all those "green shirts".

Lower Decks isn't the only show that can give us some easter eggs.

A Galileo 7, Garrovick, the holo-Connie bridge consoles. Tho, shouldn't it have been the Galileo II? Could anyone see the name clearly? Unless they played on the goof that the Galileo I appeared after it was destroyed.

The last time we see a shuttle named “Galileo” on the OG Enterprise was “Immunity Syndrome.” Then in S3 it is replaced by the “Galileo II” with no explanation.

Now we know why!
 
Parents are probably more likely to show their kids TOS than SNW. They know what's in TOS and can skip around. They don't know what's in the next upcoming episode of SNW -- for instance -- that might be more adult than whatever they want their kids to see, depending on how old they are.

The creators don't want to confuse things, they don't want a lot of parents complaining and they don't want those kids asking questions that distract from actually watching the episode. So going with the TOS look was the right move.

hile arguably this is a bit too early to do another nostalgia trip episode (Kobayashi wasn't that long ago) I think the effective third act more than made up for the initial pandering to fanservice.
Different audience, different rules apply. Most kids watching either probably haven't seen TOS, or their parents only recently introduced them to it, or they're recently only able to remember it. Either way Prodigy could be introducing Star Trek in general to this audience. So they have to touch on the various parts of it.
 
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I wonder if they'll have the stage play's latest act ready in time for Vice-Admiral Janeway's visit - assuming the Dauntless follows the Protostar's flight path to this star system at some point...

I'd love it if that were how Janeway finds out what's really going on.

I loved this week's episode. It was a real love letter to TOS and much deeper cuts than I'd expect for a series aimed at a population who have likely never even heard of Kirk, Sulu etc...

Or should that be James T. Sprock and Boones

(I like that James T is a kind of reference to Star Trek Beyond too as its what's Jaylah calls Kirk throughout)

This might be my favorite episode yet, and is giving Lower Decks a run for its money in terms of Easter eggs!
 
I like how diverse Janeway's command crew is. A Tellarite, Andorian, Trill, and she. Devoid of some of the limits of live-action production, they're able do the 150+ member world Federation a bit better. They can't go as far as maybe they should, especially with non-humanoids, or it wouldn't match the other Trek properties, but they also can't lean heavily into a Human-centric crew or what exactly would these alien kids be heading toward?

I like the alien doctor telling the kids they know they're not the Starfleeters they honor by imitating. They're not stupid or insane, they're making a choice and a noble aspirational one.

Nice to see a mix TOS and JJ stuff for the 23rd Century, not DSC/SNW versions some think have or will by SNW's end be what the period "really looked like." Room enough in the universe for everyone.
 
Well, that was indeed a special episode. When they talked about "an ensign Garrovick episode", I didn't think they meant it this literally. An episode that's rather campy on the one hand (as campy as TOS) and that celebrates the classic redshirt ensign ("bearer of crimson" - pretty much a guaranteed death sentence in TOS, and thus "the bravest among us") on the other hand, seems like it is actually a Lower Decks episode that somehow ended up on Prodigy. Also with the mention of rules for "second contact" being bit mushy...

Though I'm not wild of the more campy elements of the episode, the story did have a lot of heart (as others said the episode got better once the people on the planet became less charicature and it was more about them being in danger) and it was nice to see Dal being confronted with the dressing up as Starfleet thing. I also loved Jankom Pog in this episode, perhaps the very first time he really gets the spotlight.

The opening minutes of the episode were very good: I love the setup with Janeway getting very much the wrong impression (this will pay off throughout the rest of the season), love that the Diviner hasn't recovered his full memories and is otherwise not 100% at his senses either and most of all I loved the very economical (in time and dialogue) scene where they show Jankom repeatedly trying to disarm/destroy the weapon while Dal casually mentions that they learned from the Borg excursion that even hailing Starfleet is dangerous. This show can say much with a couple of short scenes.

Like other have said, I suspect that Janeway will gradually start to see the truth once she comes across evidence that the "dangerous criminals" aren't all that bad (the Dauntless bridge crew potentially getting seats at the stage play - old and new plays - on this planet is a delicious thought), but by that time the Protostar crew will have learned to evade her so the chase can continue anyway.

I was surprised by the ending: they are already considering dumping the Protostar. It is a logical step, but not one I thought the writers would bring up so early. Would they actually dare do that, in the season finale, say? Dump the ship for real after only 20 episodes? Or at least try to do so? Hats off if they play it like that.

Other notes:

I think the Diviner was telling the truth as he saw it, still confused and with garbled memories (the image of Gwyn in particular seems to be a somewhat warped recollection of her facing him on Tars Lamora, but she was wearing different clothes and her expression was also changed). He said that Chakotay was taken prisoner, and while Janeway no doubt thinks he meant "the dangerous criminals" did it, most likely he is referring to Drednok and co capturing Chakotay - alive.

So, Barniss Frex was indeed picked up by another vessel. While it could be an as of yet (to us) unknown vessel, known candidates are Okona, the Rev-12 (the kitten-with-sharp-claws may also want to make her way toward the Federation, as Caitians are part of or allied with the Federation) and Nandi's Damsel (in which case, no doubt her lobes are tingling with opportunity).

With Murf starting his metamurfosis, next episode may be the teens looking for information (and a possible cure, if need be) on this development. I expect them to meet Okona in that episode, as well as the close (but brief) introduction of the Dauntless and the Protostar.
 
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seems like it is actually a Lower Decks episode that somehow ended up on Prodigy. Also with the mention of rules for "second contact" being bit mushy...
Not to mention an LDS actor as guest cameo.


I was surprised by the ending: they are already considering dumping the Protostar. It is a logical step, but not one I thought the writers would bring up so early. Would they actually dare do that, in the season finale, say? Dump the ship for real after only 20 episodes? Or at least try to do so? Hats off if they play it like that.
I was surprised as well. I think they’ll resolve the weapon situation without actually needing to destroy/abandon the protostar eventually, though. Perhaps the diviner will end up disabling the weapon, for example.

By the way, I guess that these were the “aliens impersonating Starfleet officers” we were teased about months ago. Not malevolent as pretty much everyone anticipated and quite welcome to me!
 
Not to mention an LDS actor as guest cameo.

I was surprised as well. I think they’ll resolve the weapon situation without actually needing to destroy/abandon the protostar eventually, though. Perhaps the diviner will end up disabling the weapon, for example.
Yes, apparently Fred Tatiascore (Lt. Shaxs) did multiple people on the planet, among them "doctor Boons".The Shatner impression was from Murf's voice actor, apparently.

The Diviner could be talked into disabling the weapon, or possibly Gwyn could just by commanding or by telepathically linking with it (though it may require the Vau N'Akat equivalent of biometrics or a password, still, Gwyn was being set up to be the Diviner's heir in all senses).

It's possible that at some point, the crew will try to communicate with Janeway by leaving one of them behind. Main candidates to be left behind and picked up by the Dauntless (intentionally or accidentally) would be Okona (he will get on board according to the trailers, and as he is not part of the core group he would be a logical choice to go explain things), Gwyn (as the kidnapped daughter she would be welcomed, and the confrontation with her father would open possibilities for the show's arc) and maybe also Jankom (because he could be played off Dr. Noum).

I feel this may turn out to be the ST series with the best overarching plot, ever. Even DS9 may not come close.
 
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