Any time you say "Oh no! Nooo! No, no, no, no!" about a movie, its an overreaction.
DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond
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Of course, it was. I was reacting emotionally. I was that disappointed by the news.
Oh God. Why do people insist upon making assumptions or tossing extra words into one's mouth? I never said that Superman had to be solely dark and cynical in order to be well-written and multidimensional. I never said that. Why are you claiming that I did?
I heard they might even film it in color. 
Damn straight.
99.33% of the population despise the Snyder color pallet.
Ummm.... you heard "enormously joyful character" and somehow jumped to:
Your words speak for themselves.
Unless you're being sarcastic....this worked out great for Captain America
This is a fly mask.
Flies go after the tears in horses' eyes, and can really irritate them, so you put a fly mask on to protect them. They're mesh so they can see through them, it's basically the same as looking through the screen in your window.
They managed it by putting him against Tony Stark who is his opposite. So if they want a smiley happy Superman they will need a depressed, broody Batman who makes fun of him.
In Canada, we consider Superman to be fifty percent ours thanks to Joe Shuster.
Having gone through exactly what you went through, and also pulling a lot of hope out of things like Star Trek, it seems we difer in opinion on a few things. This is ok.
You have a particular opinion and viewpoint. Also absolutely good. But you often come on here, type out what you think and make it come across as if what you think is the only acceptable point of view. You literally just said that you feel hurt when people say what I said about Superman, but in that same post state that Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns did a lot of harm to writers and fans. Did you ever consider that this might hurt people who are big fans of that comic? You have an opinion, not a fact. But again, you often basically tell others that their views are wrong and yours is right.
I didn't mean to hurt your feelings when it comes to your views on Superman. But the way I like to see this character handled differs from yours, and neither of us is wrong. And this is the beauty of several takes on this character throughout the years. We can each watch what we like, and ignore the rest.
I like how he sprouts ridiculous watermelon shoulders only when in his super suit
As for Henry, I love the MoS/BvS/ZSJL trilogy. Superman's struggle to find his place and the pressure of someone with those abilities existing speaks to me. It may be the same actor, but I thought The Suicide Squad was rubbish, and Joss Whedon's JL showed how awful a wise cracking Marvel-style Henry Cavill Superman can be. So have zero faith in another Superman movie.
Plus, Man of Steel 2 is still on the Star Trek 4 pile of "I'll believe it when I see it". The only reason it might happen is that The Rock REALLY wants his fight scene with Supes, and he has a shit-ton of influence.
99.33%? Oh brother.
How did you come up with that number?I like Hoechlin as Superman, but I don't agree with your opinion. I can't think of one actor who was the best Superman.
Indeed.
I like how he sprouts ridiculous watermelon shoulders only when in his super suit
Yikes--just a horrible costume all around.
All true. Live action adaptations of superhero characters are not Saturday morning cartoons, nor are they the simple-minded, constructed fare arm-twisted on a generation by the Mort Weisingers of the comic book industry. That was never the point of bringing superheroes to the screen in this century. They were set in somewhat realistic settings (within the fantasy framework) audiences could relate to, and there's few kinds of character journeys more relatable than a person so unlike the rest of the world, that his essence, perspective and approaches are not going to be Safe For General Audiences nor a surrogate daddy. He is an alien--the ultimate outlier, not a cheap copy of / easily fitting in with humankind.
Man of Steel is such a wonderful exploration of what the alien must endure--the choices he has to make (and determine if his adopted father's warnings were correct) to find his way in a world that--as much as he will try--will always be a "foreign land" to him. Appearances--his looking like a human---never matters. It is his struggle from within--knowing he's different and by nature, will deal with things in a far different way than Stereotyped 1940s/50s Good Neighborhood Cop O'Leary, or be the safe, manufactured American lap of comfort found on TV series such as Father Knows Best. (1954-60). His finding his own way--recognizing his unique status and not being a cheap, safe copy of John Q. Public is what makes a compelling Superman.
Yes--that was trying to mainline a lethal dose of MCU into the body of something never intended to accept or survive on such a horrid concoction. Whedon's JL was lifeless and forced characters into an all-too-familiar cartoon template from someone who proved he understood not a thing about the established DC world he was dealing with. Thankfully, ZSJL laid out the natural continuation of the series--what was meant to be.
The current hands on the steering wheel of DC movies have--so far--not said they are making complete reboots of the franchise. Crossing fingers on that one. Recent, released movies (Black Adam) and forthcoming films such as Aquaman 2, The Flash and Blue Beetle[/i] are continuing / set in the existing world seen since MoS, so I do have doubts that Gunn, et al., are going to drop a night-and-day different DC film universe on millions of loyal DCEU fans who have supported / followed the stories of their favorite characters since 2013. Such a move would not be sound at all.
Agreed, and since Johnson is one of the key reasons Cavill is back in the role--and has said time and again how he loves the Cavill approach, we may see the proper DCEU Superman in the MoS sequel, not yet another disastrous version of the Donner Superman--as seen in Superman Returns.
I agree with basically everything here. Except that I enjoyed Superman Returns quite a bit, despite some of the obvious flaws. Did you know by the way, both Cavill and Amy Adams auditioned for the parts of Superman and Lois Lane for that movie?
I appreciate Brandon's portrayal as a continuation of Reeve's Superman, and the movie had some excellent scenes. But since Reeve's Superman isn't my favorite version, it stands to reason that Routh's isn't as well. Oddly enough, I like his Superman more than Reeve's.
This, by the way is nothing against Reeve. I grew up with his Superman since I was born in 1982. His Superman will always have a part in my heart, being a part of my childhood and all. But growing up, and becoming an adult who is neuro-divergent and has both never fit in as a child and has come to terms with never truly fitting in as an adult, Cavill's portrayal of an entity that looks as acts human but knows deep withing he is completely different than others struck a cord with me.
Imagine Kal-El, knowing full that he is capable of becoming what we saw in Injustice for example, and making a consious decision that by doing that, he takes away exactly what humanity needs.... an example. He learned that the hard way, as we saw in Mos/BvS. Even though people hated him because he is an alien, he kept showing them what it truly means to be good. Showing humanity that if an alien can keep up what we consider morally right behavior, humans can as well.
Not too smart, are you? 86.743674% of statistics are made up on the spot.99.33%? Oh brother.
He had a small role in the Crisis on Infinite Earths Arrowverse crossover as an older Superman. He was really good in it, and would have love to see him back as Superman.
