What do people think of SNW (spoiler free please)
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It's my fourth favorite Trek series right now.
It's my second favorite after TOS and before TNG.
1. TOS
2. DS9
3. TNG
4. SNW
ENT sort of occupies that middle ground now. Not top tier but not hanging out with the so-so shows at the back.
2. DS9
3. TNG
4. SNW
ENT sort of occupies that middle ground now. Not top tier but not hanging out with the so-so shows at the back.
I'm finally catching up. I'm 8 episodes in, and I love it. It's my favorite of the serious new-Trek shows. (I love "Lower Decks" just a tad more, but it's so wildly different it seems pointless to include it in a comparison.)
I love how they've fleshed out Una, and given her character a built-in reason to eventually leave, so we aren't just waiting for something bad to happen to her in this prequel show. I thought the doctor's sublot was also very classic Sci-fi, both interesting and somewhat chilling in its idea. ("Altered Carbon" came to mind.) I lovethe inclusion of an Aenar. Hell, even that other character's pornstache is growing on me.
I hope to finish the season tonight.
I love how they've fleshed out Una, and given her character a built-in reason to eventually leave, so we aren't just waiting for something bad to happen to her in this prequel show. I thought the doctor's sublot was also very classic Sci-fi, both interesting and somewhat chilling in its idea. ("Altered Carbon" came to mind.) I lovethe inclusion of an Aenar. Hell, even that other character's pornstache is growing on me.
I hope to finish the season tonight.
I was under the impression that all "Srar Trek" installments were heavily dated, to the point that I suspect it's done deliberately now, for traditions sake.
Can't lie, that episode was quite dumb. And T'Pring has fast gone from an interesting one-off character from classic "Trek" to a groan-inducing pain in the backside, ranking down there with Wesley Crusher. She's just like Klyden on "the Orville"--the audience rarely sees her doing anything other than making a main character's life difficult, but we're expected to believe he has good reason to stay invested in this relationship. And I don't even know why she needs to be in the show; I was under the impression that she and Spock were betrothed by arranged marriage, but didn't really know each other. I wish it had stated that way.
T'Prick aside, I love the show. I've just finished the season, and now I'm a fan.
This was the strongest first season of any Trek since before I was born. End of story.
Are we, though? I don't think it's at all clear that the narrative wants us to think Spock has a good reason to stay with her.
Seems to me the writers wanted to explore what a Vulcan relationship -- and a Vulcan break-up -- would look like.
T'Pring was awful in "Amok Time." SNW gave us more understanding of her. I prefer SNW on that one.
What has surprised me is that each episode has had a quite different flavour. In a short season of ten episodes, that variety is quite a brave choice and has given the characters and actors plenty to play with.
Really enjoyed waiting for each instalment.
Really enjoyed waiting for each instalment.
I would say it is easily the best first season since TOS. But I also just realized, it is really only about 1/3 of the length of the first season of TOS. I will think about deciding if it is better than TOS S1 once SNW wraps up season 3.
I think SNW (and LDS before it) have been their respective creators' versions of "how I would do X type of Star Trek episode". SNW did a submarine warfare episode ("Memento Mori"), a wromp-y bodyswap episode, a full horror episode, a full fantasy episode, etc. LDS has had more time to flesh out its version of the universe and is now going deeper with its own internal characters, villains (Pakleds!), and references. I think SNW will start stretching its wings a little more given time. Hopefully season 2 will be that time.
I too have really liked most of the stories. Episodes 2, 4, 5, 7, and 10 were more standouts than the others, but there was a lot to like in all but episode 8 (Elysian Kingdom), and even then there were a couple of nuggets that I would have preferred them to explore more than the pointless, but fun for the cast, fantasy roles.
Yeah, I agree. I think the writers wanted to explore a Vulcan relationship, but that they aren't really making Spock out to be head over heels into this relationship. I think he has been "enjoying" it in a Vulcan way, but the moment duty pressed on him, he was ready to skip out on T'Pring.
The variety has been nice. I have enjoyed seeing these showrunner's takes on various Trek plots and ideas. And when one episode isn't so hot, it doesn't end up torpedoing a whole season's worth of storyline.
Exactly. Spock cares about T'Pring, but he's not ready to admit to himself yet that he's not in love with her.
Watching for the first time now. Just finished Ep. 4.
I haven't posted on this site in awhile but am logging on specifically to say how pleased I am so far with SNW. Wow! I'm loving it....
Someone -- after all these years -- is finally getting the *soul* of Star Trek. Someone gets the real formula!
Likable characters....optimism and thoughtfulness while still being fun and not overly preachy. Great visuals, classic Trek narratives, and playing effortlessly within the canonical sandbox.....and likeable characters!
So pleasantly surprised....best Trek since the 90s. I sure hope it stays this good....
I haven't posted on this site in awhile but am logging on specifically to say how pleased I am so far with SNW. Wow! I'm loving it....
Someone -- after all these years -- is finally getting the *soul* of Star Trek. Someone gets the real formula!
Likable characters....optimism and thoughtfulness while still being fun and not overly preachy. Great visuals, classic Trek narratives, and playing effortlessly within the canonical sandbox.....and likeable characters!
So pleasantly surprised....best Trek since the 90s. I sure hope it stays this good....
Well, it took a while after TOS. Not everything works the same way twice, but Pike's close enough to Kirk to really bring back TOS. Better than TNG.
How have I not commented on this thread yet? I'm long overdue...
Spoiler free, my opinion is that "Strange New Worlds" is the best Star Trek of all. It takes the brilliant action/adventure of TOS, the powerful visual style of TMP, and the truly optimistic humanism of TNG, and somehow throws it all into one powerfully awesome show while somehow upping the ante on all the best of what came before. This is the Trek that Gene Roddenberry wanted to make from the start, but just couldn't do to budget. Everything about this show is perfect, and perfectly "Star Trek". Every week I was more and more impressed, and I miss it terribly between seasons. This is the kind of Star Trek show I've always wanted, and it's the one that makes me proud to be a fan.
Spoiler free, my opinion is that "Strange New Worlds" is the best Star Trek of all. It takes the brilliant action/adventure of TOS, the powerful visual style of TMP, and the truly optimistic humanism of TNG, and somehow throws it all into one powerfully awesome show while somehow upping the ante on all the best of what came before. This is the Trek that Gene Roddenberry wanted to make from the start, but just couldn't do to budget. Everything about this show is perfect, and perfectly "Star Trek". Every week I was more and more impressed, and I miss it terribly between seasons. This is the kind of Star Trek show I've always wanted, and it's the one that makes me proud to be a fan.
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