If we see the Enteprise D what sort fo updates could we expect???...

[Lord Garth]

This is speculation right? The showrunners are not bring it back?

We're seeing the Enterprise-D bridge at the very least. Not speculation. They've tweeted about it.

Anything else beyond that, I don't know. The rest of it's speculation. It could be in the salvaged saucer in the museum, a holodeck simulation, an illusion, a weird dreamlike thing, or something else.

 

[NCC-73515]

The incandescents dont fit with todays or current or pastTreks lighting. We use LEDs on almost everything now.

....I'm thinking if we get a flashback on the D bridge or in a museum it will need a major update. Definitely lots of led lights to illuminate displays. No incandescent lights....

"Because modern builds use LED lighting which backlights the interface panels very evenly, we learned that Mike Okuda engineered dark gradient ‘falloff’ coloring into the panels to emulate the 1980s-era incandescent internal lighting which lived in the original TNG sets."
https://blog.trekcore.com/2022/08/star-trek-set-tour-unveils-first-next-generation-set-builds/

Perhaps they're doing the same thing on PIC. Perhaps they even filmed there

that’s what I’m wondering. Will it be the updated (and better looking) bridge from Generations. Or the more well known/famous version from TNG S2-7 that had the different side walls.

my money is the tv version since it’s what people are most familiar with.

It seemed 'steeper' for LeVar, whatever that means... if it's in the museum, it depends of whether conservationists' attitudes in the future are for preservation as it ended its existence (GEN), or restoration to its historical peak role (TNG)

 

[Dar70]

"Because modern builds use LED lighting which backlights the interface panels very evenly, we learned that Mike Okuda engineered dark gradient ‘falloff’ coloring into the panels to emulate the 1980s-era incandescent internal lighting which lived in the original TNG sets."
https://blog.trekcore.com/2022/08/star-trek-set-tour-unveils-first-next-generation-set-builds/

Perhaps they're doing the same thing on PIC. Perhaps they even filmed there


It seemed 'steeper' for LeVar, whatever that means... if it's in the museum, it depends of whether conservationists' attitudes in the future are for preservation as it ended its existence (GEN), or restoration to its historical peak role (TNG)

Haha. Yeah I read that article before I made this thread about the light gradient duento the old way of lighting with incandescents. I'm looking forward to see Cawleys finished TNG bridge.

 

[Markonian]

You know there's a difference between the perception of how the '60s hold up and how the '80s & '90s hold up. Even if you don't agree with it, you know the perception is there and you know that TNG had higher production values than TOS. You just can't say it because it destroys the hyperbolic case you're trying to make. "They'll change TNG just like they changed TOS!" They won't. Unlike you, I used examples directly from PIC itself.

If they were really going to do what you're pretending they'll do, Worf would look like a Disco Klingon. He doesn't.

Thank you, that makes sense. The Enterprise-D looked appropriate in Picard's dream, Archive model and as SFC holo in season 1. After what happened to the Enterprise design in DSC, I'm still afraid that other prominent ships might be radically redesigned for change's sake.

 

[Dukhat]

Thank you, that makes sense. The Enterprise-D looked appropriate in Picard's dream, Archive model and as SFC holo in season 1. After what happened to the Enterprise design in DSC, I'm still afraid that other prominent ships might be radically redesigned for change's sake.

I don’t think that’s going to happen. Between (my admittedly biased perception that) the producers having realized that too much change is a bad thing, the TNG nostalgia-fest that is Lower Decks, and the reunion of the TNG crew, I doubt we’ll be seeing any more ‘visual reboots’ of things that looked one way before but look a completely different way now.

Plus, I get the feeling that they really don’t know what to do about the visual disconnect between the TOS Enterprise and the Discoprise any more. They obviously want to use and promote the visual reboot into SNW, but still show things like the TOS interiors in “Ephraim & Dot” and the TOS Connie exteriors in LD, Prodigy and now PIC. The running idea that ‘DSC and SNW was how it always looked’ is starting to get chips in the facade.

 

[fireproof78]

I doubt we’ll be seeing any more ‘visual reboots’ of things that looked one way before but look a completely different way now.

Likely not. Once bitten, twice shy as it were. They simply underestimated the strong reticence to visual updates because it's been so long between TMP and TNG.

It will carry on until enough people whine about how samey everything looks and then it will swing the other way.

 

[NCC-73515]

Thank you, that makes sense. The Enterprise-D looked appropriate in Picard's dream, Archive model and as SFC holo in season 1. After what happened to the Enterprise design in DSC, I'm still afraid that other prominent ships might be radically redesigned for change's sake.

Different people are in charge of PIC designs AFAIK, and many of the oddest changes were Fuller's ideas, so I guess we're kinda safe now

 

[Markonian]

Different people are in charge of PIC designs AFAIK, and many of the oddest changes were Fuller's ideas, so I guess we're kinda safe now

True, but they present each show with new uniforms and then introduce/change uniforms each season. Sometimes it's justified to establish the setting but at other times just random.

 

[Paul755]

I don’t think that’s going to happen. Between (my admittedly biased perception that) the producers having realized that too much change is a bad thing, the TNG nostalgia-fest that is Lower Decks, and the reunion of the TNG crew, I doubt we’ll be seeing any more ‘visual reboots’ of things that looked one way before but look a completely different way now.

Plus, I get the feeling that they really don’t know what to do about the visual disconnect between the TOS Enterprise and the Discoprise any more. They obviously want to use and promote the visual reboot into SNW, but still show things like the TOS interiors in “Ephraim & Dot” and the TOS Connie exteriors in LD, Prodigy and now PIC. The running idea that ‘DSC and SNW was how it always looked’ is starting to get chips in the facade.

it’s so weird to me that they don’t have a unified look for the Enterprise vs Discoprise in nu-Trek.

and I would still not put it past them to do a TNG “visual reboot” once we get further away from TNG. Another 15-20 years or so down the line.

 

[Tuskin38]

True, but they present each show with new uniforms and then introduce/change uniforms each season. Sometimes it's justified to establish the setting but at other times just random.

The guy in charge of the PIC Art department right now (Dave Blass) is an old school fan, as is the showrunner, Terry. If there's going to be a massive change to the Enterprise-D, it won't be by them. Same with Lower Decks. Prodigy also used an unchanged Galaxy-Class bridge.

Perhaps they even filmed there

Nah they couldn't have, they don't have the full set built yet, just some consoles and chairs, and not even that much when PIC Season 3 was filming.

 

[fireproof78]

it’s so weird to me that they don’t have a unified look for the Enterprise vs Discoprise in nu-Trek.

and I would still not put it past them to do a TNG “visual reboot” once we get further away from TNG. Another 15-20 years or so down the line.

Cool. Maybe it will be interesting consistently.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

They're gonna give the Ent-D split nacelle pylons.

 

[fireproof78]

True, but they present each show with new uniforms and then introduce/change uniforms each season. Sometimes it's justified to establish the setting but at other times just random.

Well, they are supposedly creative people...maybe they want to create something...

 

[Tuskin38]

They're gonna give the Ent-D split nacelle pylons.

They didn't in Season 1.

and as SFC holo in season 1.

Well, not entirely, they mirrored Shuttle bay 2 and 3 on the neck for whatever reason.

But other than that, I think It was spot on.

 

[Markonian]

Well, they are supposedly creative people...maybe they want to create something...

So did the people who worked on Classic Trek. Yet, the Constitution class was recreated faithfully for DS9 "Tribbles" and ENT "Darkly". There's plenty of new content they can create alongside.

 

[JamesRye]

I can almost guarantee that the shuttle bays will be the same size - as they were in Season 1 of Picard. An egregious error caused by using the cheap ass models that Eaglemoss made.

 

[The Wormhole]

"Egregious." Really? I didn't even notice the shuttlebays were the wrong size and could care even less.

 

[Tuskin38]

I can almost guarantee that the shuttle bays will be the same size - as they were in Season 1 of Picard. An egregious error caused by using the cheap ass models that Eaglemoss made.

That's a hyperbole. Season 2 and 3 also have a different art team, I can almost guarantee if we do see a Galaxy class from the outside the shuttle bays will be correct.

Also the Eaglemoss CG model did not have mirrored shuttlebays, only a couple of the physical models did.

Eaglemoss's CG models were also not 'cheapass' they're pretty damn detailed when they had to make their own.
http://www.meshweaver.com/eaglemoss--trek-little-ships-1.html

 

[fireproof78]

So did the people who worked on Classic Trek. Yet, the Constitution class was recreated faithfully for DS9 "Tribbles" and ENT "Darkly". There's plenty of new content they can create alongside.

Two different purpose no doubt.

 

[NCC-73515]

At least it won't be the USS Intiaparinu