Star Trek TOS Re-Watch

[Commishsleer]

NBC didn’t like Majel in the role of Number One—they didn’t think she was strong enough to carry the role. They also disliked Roddenberry’s blatant nepotism in casting his known extramarital girlfriend in a prominent role of a show he was trying to sell them.

If another actress, not connected so intimately with Roddenberry, had been cast as Number One the character might have survived into the series.

Given NBC’s objection to Majel then Roddenberry still tried to sneak her into the show in some capacity.

Was it coincidence that Chapel was on board the ship when it "found" Korby or was it in the Enterprise 5-year schedule -
1. Visit salt creature planet
2. Visit penitentiaries
3. Visit last place heard from Roger Korby.
4. Space mapping
5. Negotiate treaty.
...
..

 

[Pauln6]

Chapel wasn't a running character in the first season. She was featured in "Naked Time" as a guest character (like Riley) and was a replacement for another character in "What Are Little Girls Made Of" (courtesy of Roddenberry). She wasn't featured again until the very last episode of the first season "Operation Annihilate!" It seems that the character of Chapel (and actress Majel Barrett) wasn't considered a full-fledged part of the show until the second season.

That's true, and there were certainly other characters who would have been higher up my list than Chapel for a return (Charlene Masters, Helen Noel, Tonia Barrows). They had a series of Yeoman Not-Rands in series one, plus Uhura took on Rand's role in one episode. Maybe, once they realised that there wasn't much mileage in the yeoman character if she wasn't a regular, they decided that another occasional day player character away from the bridge would do, and the nurse character could function as decorative as well as fulfil a story purpose occasionally.

 

[mb22]

That's true, and there were certainly other characters who would have been higher up my list than Chapel for a return (Charlene Masters, Helen Noel, Tonia Barrows).

The actresses who played Masters, Noel, and Barrows didn't have a relationship with Roddenberry. And I doubt they would make Janet MacLachlan a regular, having already one African American woman in the cast.

Does anyone have the first season writer's bible? I doubt Chapel is mentioned in it.

 

[Commander Troi]

I shall assess the Chapel/Corby relationship when I get to it in a few weeks. It is possible to love more than one person though isn’t it?

Yes.

 

[Lord Garth]

TOS = Star Trek 1.0
TNG-ENT = Star Trek 2.0
DSC on = Star Trek 3.0

It's pretty cut-and-dried from the way I see it.

Chapel wasn't a running character in the first season. She was featured in "Naked Time" as a guest character (like Riley) and was a replacement for another character in "What Are Little Girls Made Of" (courtesy of Roddenberry). She wasn't featured again until the very last episode of the first season "Operation Annihilate!" It seems that the character of Chapel (and actress Majel Barrett) wasn't considered a full-fledged part of the show until the second season.

Interesting. I never noticed that or really thought about it before. I think it's possible Gene Roddenberry was hoping NBC would forget about Majel Barrett and was trying to give them time to. Not that he was actually fooling anybody... Otherwise, he might've had more of Chapel in the first season.

 

[Warped9]

They spotted Majel’s reappearance pretty well right off.

 

[EnnJaySeeT800]

I didn't like the ending of The Man Trap, killing off the last of the creature's kind seemed a bit off putting for me

 

[mb22]

TOS = Star Trek 1.0
TNG-ENT = Star Trek 2.0
DSC on = Star Trek 3.0

It's pretty cut-and-dried from the way I see it.

What about the TOS animated series and the TOS movies?

 

[Ssosmcin]

I didn't like the ending of The Man Trap, killing off the last of the creature's kind seemed a bit off putting for me

I'm not sure how much choice there was. McCoy fired twice without changing the settings. It took two shots to kill it. So stun probably wasn't gonna do a lot - unless it was on stun and it was so weak, that setting killed it. This episode's version of stun seemed to be making someone groggy with their voice on "slow" rather than knocking someone out.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm not sure how much choice there was. McCoy fired twice without changing the settings. It took two shots to kill it. So stun probably wasn't gonna do a lot - unless it was on stun and it was so weak, that setting killed it. This episode's version of stun seemed to be making someone groggy with their voice on "slow" rather than knocking someone out.

Except for Crater. He gets knocked right out.

 

[Lord Garth]

What about the TOS animated series and the TOS movies?

If you want me to get more specific, then...

TAS --> Still 1.0
TMP --> 1.1 (Fully matured first version of Gene Roddenberry's Star Trek, with a visual upgrade)
TWOK-TUC --> 1.11 (After control of the films was taken away from Roddenberry)

TNG (S1-S2) --> 2.0 (Gene Roddenberry's second version of Star Trek)
TNG (S3-S5) --> 2.1 (After Rick Berman was promoted to Executive Producer but before Gene Roddenberry died)
TNG S5 through ENT --> 2.11 (After Gene Roddenberry died)

That's my take on it, at least.

 

[Ssosmcin]

Except for Crater. He gets knocked right out.

Nope Crater is who I was referring to. He got hit, fell against the rocks and was woozy with his voice pitched down.

 

[fireproof78]

Nope Crater is who I was referring to. He got hit, fell against the rocks and was woozy with his voice pitched down.

Must be misremembering. Hilarious shot thought.

Actually, thinking about it any sort of "stun" effect used in early TOS was closer to "woozy" than full on sedation. Mitchell was karate chopped by Spock and then sedated but still able to keep himself upright on the transporter pad.

 

[EnnJaySeeT800]

I'm not sure how much choice there was. McCoy fired twice without changing the settings. It took two shots to kill it. So stun probably wasn't gonna do a lot - unless it was on stun and it was so weak, that setting killed it. This episode's version of stun seemed to be making someone groggy with their voice on "slow" rather than knocking someone out.

true

 

[dupersuper]

It's only really the casual use of transporters that I fund annoying.

...Why?

 

[Pauln6]

...Why?

Because in TOS transporters were used to beam from transporter pads to locations using communicators as location relays. When Kirk suggested beaming from a transporter pad to a location inside the ship, Scotty clutched his pearls and almost fainted yet a decade beforehand, everyone just walks into a room and says beam me to the toilet, I can't be bothered to walk, and nobody bats an eyelid.

Transporters are a plot busting get out. I prefer it when the handcuffs are on.

 

[Warped9]

Because in TOS transporters were used to beam from transporter pads to locations using communicators as location relays. When Kirk suggested beaming from a transporter pad to a location inside the ship, Scotty clutched his pearls and almost fainted yet a decade beforehand, everyone just walks into a room and says beam me to the toilet, I can't be bothered to walk, and nobody bats an eyelid.

Transporters are a plot busting get out. I prefer it when the handcuffs are on.

Since I ignore ENT, DSC-SNW
and JJtrek I don’t have that problem.

 

[Admiral Michael NCC1701]

This is what is great about voyager as there energy is limited they are forced to use the Delta flyer and (what seemed to be a endless amount of) shuttle crafts.

 

[fireproof78]

Transporters are a plot busting get out. I prefer it when the handcuffs are on.

Have been since their inception. Trek always struggled with how to find balance.

 

[Noname Given]

This is what is great about voyager as there energy is limited they are forced to use the Delta flyer and (what seemed to be a endless amount of) shuttle crafts.

One of the many things I was going with in the first season; was when they stated, "The energy powering the Holodeck is different than the energy powering the rest of the ship; so yeah, we need to conserve energy, but NOT WRT the Holodeck..." -- again,